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[CCW IN ACTION] Houston Concealed Carriers Unload On Armed Muggers — Why We Travel In Packs

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HOUSTON, TEXAS — Three robbery suspects, two of which were believed armed, suffered a terrible surprise when they attempted to ambush two men and two women exiting a bar at 2 am.  According to statements released by the victims and Houston Police through KHOU, two armed robbers approached the group as they were getting into their car.  The first one told the driver to give him his money.  But the driver held up his photo ID and credit card because he reportedly “doesn’t carry cash”.

The first armed robber slapped his belongings out of his hand.  That’s when the victim’s brother got out of the car and judiciously placed two well placed shots into the man’s chest.  He then immediately transitioned to the second armed robber and reportedly “emptied his 12-round clip (sic)”.

“Emptied the rest of the clip, we have a 12-round clip, so emptied the rest of the clip into the guy,” the brother said to KHOU. “Well it turns out the cop said that he turned up at the hospital, he got hit like seven times.”

That second robber managed to flee the scene after allegedly stealing a gun out of one of the women’s purses.  He showed up to the hospital with seven bullet wounds.  The first suspect went down and was placed into critical condition.

“As soon as he shot him [the first armed robber], I ran over there and kicked him in his face twice because I don’t know if he was dead or not,” said the victim. “Kicked him twice in his face, tried to clear his gun, but it turned out to be a fake. It wasn’t even real.”

The investigator from Houston’s police department backed up the man’s assertations.

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“It was found to be an Airsoft gun,” said Jeremy Spurlock, an investigator with the Houston Police Department. “There was no orange tip or anything. If you’d have seen it, you would have believed it was a real gun.”

When asked about the encounter, both brothers appear to be completely unphased by the situation.  They credit their background in the military as part of their mindset in getting through the situation as well as they did.

“It wasn’t scary,” said the victim. “We’re prior service military, so this was just like a regular reaction to us.”

Well, good enough.  The Harris County prosecutor will give the final word on whether any charges are pending but the Houston police don’t seem to think anything was too out of place.  What’s more amazing is that both attempted-robbers survived.  One was shot SEVEN times and still managed to escape?!  The first one got shot twice in the chest and survived in surgery.

Is this a weird new thing where medical science can save anyone?  I don’t know whether to be impressed or disappointed.  At least the concealed carriers neutralized the threat — that’s what matters.

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James England is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and has served as a defense contractor in Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. His daily concealed carry…

James England is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and has served as a defense contractor in Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. His daily concealed carry handgun is a Glock 36 in a Lenwood Holsters Specter IWB or his CZ-75D PCR in an Alien Gear MOD holster.

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  • Robert C. Muench

    Hand guns aren’t the death machines people think.

    • Stanley B. Manley

      Ain’t that the truth. Shot placement is critical. A shot in the head or a shot in the crotch are really good bets.

  • A. Tsai

    sniff..sniff…I get so emotional over stories with happy endings.

    • Adam Bricker

      bwahahahaha

    • disqus_EnMj8rcz3A

      yes, definitely the feel good story of the week.

  • Stephen Wilson

    It’s not called a “clip”, it’s called a magazine!

    • clay

      Get over it. Yes you’re right, and no one but you really cares.

      • Stephen Wilson

        Not true, any “REAL” gun enthusiast calls it by its correct name!

        • cj

          I’m a real gun enthusiast and I don’t give a sh!t. I do however, think you have your panties on too tight.

        • An Angry Hamster

          Anyone knowledgeable about firearms would call it by it’s name and not something hollywood dreamed up.

          • Dan Hardesty

            You can be extremely knowledgeable, but also get to a point that the minor things in life don’t really matter. Yes, technically it was incorrect. Yes, I found it funny, laughed, and even smiled a bit. To get that worked up over someone’s ignorance or stupidity is not worth it to me anymore. But, if you are one that still gets that upset….please do so.

          • An Angry Hamster

            I am not in the least bit worked up. Just annoyed with folks is all.

          • Todd Buckendorf

            “16 in the ‘clip’ and 1 in the ‘hole.’ Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold.” -Nate Dogg
            Has nothing to do with Hollywood dreaming up some term for me. :P

          • An Angry Hamster

            Do you have any idea how fking stupid that sounded?

          • Todd Buckendorf

            Not a fan of the G-funk era?

          • kyew

            Not a fan of idiots. But that’s just me…

          • Todd Buckendorf

            You seem to have failed to understand the question.

          • kyew

            “”16 in the ‘clip’ and 1 in the ‘hole.’ Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold.” -Nate Dogg
            Has nothing to do with Hollywood dreaming up some term for me. :P”

            What question?

            You seem to have failed to understand what I was responding to.

          • Todd Buckendorf

            You were clearly responding to me, as indicated in the response… With that said, I have not misunderstood. Your response of “Not a fan of…” is directly responded to “Not a fan of…?” posted by me. Therefore, you are failing, once again, to create an applicable response, as you seemingly have decided that fact doesn’t matter and you will leave it open for interpretation that you were possibly responding to something else.

          • kyew

            Take a moment and catch your breath. Stop trying to appear intelligent and actually use your brain for a moment. It isn’t a complicated chain of events, as you’ll soon see.

            First, I said, “respond”, not “reply”. You might notice a difference in spelling if not in definition.

            Second, yes, I did reply to your question, but the response was to what instigated your question, which anyone with any brains would have easily understood. Some moron going on about shooting someone and trying (actually failing) to make it rhyme or, at the least, appear to be artistic.

            Third, your question was largely rhetorical, which means it does not require an answer. Were you expecting an answer to a rhetorical question? If you were, you really shouldn’t expect to be perceived as intelligent.

            Fourth, if you actually were expecting an answer (which I’m beginning to believe) your question wasn’t to me.

            Look up the word “rhetoric”. Then file this lesson under that tab in your… brain for future reference.

            Oh, and here’s a hint: rhetoric (as in rhetorical questions) is very similar to rhetoric (language/communication skills). I wonder if you’ll be able to discern the difference.

        • Jimmy D

          Is the founder of SEAL Team 6 a fraud? Read any of Richard Marcinko’s books and he’ll really make you sad talking about what’s in the “clip”, changing the “clip”…

    • kyew

      Fact is, the guy calls the magazine a clip and still defended himself and his family. Shows exactly how much correct terminology means.

      ‘Nuff said.

      • wjgo

        Really? Maybe he needed 7 shots because he didn’t know enough terminology to buy hollowpoints.

        • kyew

          No one calls hollow points by any other name, moron.

          Try to at least be relevant with your asinine replies.

    • Rick Mage

      I’m a 20 year military veteran, but I have decided that I am now going to start calling “magazines” “clips” just to piss off all the “REAL” gun enthusiasts……Because, I like pissing those types off, and there isn’t a damn thing that they can do about it….. :)

      • Stanley B. Manley

        Well now, ain’t you sumpt’n special?

        • Jeff Crouch

          Must be since you’re talking to him. lol

      • DeeBar

        I sold firearms for some years while going to school many years ago and it was always clips . Shot competition for maybe 15 years or more plus for the Army Trap and Skeet team at the highest level . Folks , what ever you call them just make sure they are full of ” nasties ” and aim true . Just be sure you empty them , more in the den !

      • Chuck Loefke

        I’m going to buy an M1 so I can honestly say that I carry my ammo in clips. 7 rounds from one of those to the chest and that turd isn’t going anywhere!!!!

        • xtphreak

          but sooooo very uncomfortable in an IWB holster :)

    • Mike Ogden

      Lots of prior service guys, especially grunts, call magazines clips. This goes back to our first semi auto rifle, the M1 Garand, which fed from an 8 round CLIP.

      • DeeBar

        Thank you ! So there !

    • hirider

      Historically, since their invention, they’ve locally been called “clips”. Only in the legalese language of lawyers, politicians and liberals are they called “Magazines.”

    • Jimmy D

      What are you a frickin librarian or somethin’? “Magazine” originally referred to a fucking *room* – in a building – and only came to be acceptable as currently used through it’s *common usage*.

  • catch22

    I would like to know what caliber ammo was being used that the attackers were not stopped immediately with 2 shots to the cheats or emptying a magazine into the other. Was this FMJ .22 ? JHP 9mm? Would be good to know.

    • bruce lancaster

      Stopped immediately by 2 shots to the chest… Yeah. You watch too many movies and too much TV. It just doesn’t always (or even usually) work that way. For instance, there have been 2,887 people shot in Chicago so far this year. Less than 200 died of those gunshot wounds. We don’t know exactly how many because they only report total murders and most murders are done with fists and feet, followed by blunt objects like baseball bats and hammers or even rocks, then followed by firearms, then knives. Almost 3,000 people shot so far and in all likelihood less than 100 dead from gunshot.

    • An Angry Hamster

      Probably one of those awesome 9mm or 40 cals….. People that are serious about protecting themselves and loved ones carry .45, .357, or larger. Two rounds in the chest with either at that range, and that guy wouldn’t have required surgery. Not to mention the guy with seven in him.

      • Stanley B. Manley

        Pure conjecture.

        • An Angry Hamster

          Maybe so, but I think I will stick to a .357 loaded with Magnums when it comes to protecting myself and loved ones on the street. At home, well I think I’ll stick to something a little better than a girly AR.

      • DeeBar

        Depends on the projectile . I’ve seen too many times the damage caused by these calibers and mostly ball ammo and not enough by .223’s and .308’s , also ball ammo . Conjecture is mostly what I’m hearing .

    • LeeP

      If it had been .22 he probably would have died in agony, and not survived no matter what they did, given a torso hit. Those rounds just bounce all around in there and do an incredible amount of damage. PAINFUL damage.

      • DeeBar

        I would bet the .22 has killed more deer than most others . One or two shots to the lungs is certain death and have seen it several times not that I would do it . I collect and have most of these , .45 on down , all semi’s . Recoil from the larger not much fun because of hand placement and more recoil but have shot many of the big guns. Had a gov’t issue .45 and a Colt Python in V.N. but only used em’ to shoot monkeys and some snakes .

        • LeeP

          I think you are right. A 230 grain .45 round from a 1911 certainly provides an additional amount of shock, and is more likely to stop a person RIGHT NOW, rather than inflict certain death over a longer period of time. Bullet goes in, makes a big hole, comes out in more or less a straight line, while the lighter .22 is easily deflected and reflected by bones and such, causing the round to drill a whole bunch of lines inside the body. Then, there is almost no way to stop the bleeding, let alone fix it, even with prompt medical care. It is never exactly clear from the outside what the bullet path (like a black widow web) has been. I believe that’s the theory (aside from the weight of the cartridges) behind the 5.56 rounds, as it only takes a couple of guys to haul a body from the scene, whereas it ties a whole bunch of them up to care for a wounded one. For causing death, more rounds is better.

  • joe bloe

    10 shots at close range, hit seven times. still able to steal gun and escape. but in several states you can only have a 10rd mag. nope.

    • Stanley B. Manley

      Please be advised, Rick Mage call those “clips” just to piss of “REAL” gun enthusiasts and there ain’t nuth’n you can do about it. You can read it for yourself three posts up.

    • DeeBar

      My ten’s hold 15 and very few could ever hope to survive and legal in WA. St. and oh , one in the chamber . 16 works for me . If that doesn’t work I’m running !

      • Big Dog9MM

        9 hits out of 12 still isn’t bad….the women didn’t get hurt….or the brother….but it is also why I carry 17 + 1…

      • joe bloe

        be happy you don’t live in md,ny,ca, nj, ect.

        • DeeBar

          Washington State : I cannot let you or even family members hold my gun without the chance of going to jail or being fined . Washington State wants to be Mexifornia and is just about there .

  • Jeremiah N Baruch

    And the gun control advocates still stand by their claim “The SOLE purpose of guns is to kill people.”

    • Noel

      Well, it is partly true.

      • Stanley B. Manley

        That’s the good part, when you’re dealing with armed criminals.

      • Jeremiah N Baruch

        If something has only one purpose, how can it be partly true?

        Killing people is just one of the things guns can be used for. They are tools. They are used to deter, to protect, to enforce the law, to eliminate threats, to defend against harm, to hunt, to commit acts of mercy for suffering animals, and even to provide a sort of comfort to those who are in dangerous situations, as well as to commit crimes.

  • Barry Hayes

    Pretty sure they were breaking the law if they were “exiting a bar” while carrying in Texas, unless they were cops…

    • bruce lancaster

      The story doesn’t say they were carrying in the bar. It says the brother who did the trigger work got out of the car. The firearm may well have been in the vehicle while they were in the bar. The story does mention one of the robbers got a gun from the woman’s purse, but it doesn’t say she ever had the purse in the bar. It may well have been left in the vehicle also.

      • Dennis Mumma

        It is Texas, gun owners have rights.

  • An Angry Hamster

    If they had been carrying .357’s the wanna-be robbers wouldn’t have survived. Enough said.

    • kyew

      Or .45 APC. I’m betting the victims had .380s or maybe some cheap 9mm.

      • An Angry Hamster

        It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if you were right. In fact I would put money you are.

      • People can be shot seven times by a 357 and survive. Hell people have been shot dozens of times from machine guns in war and survived.

        • kyew

          Of course they can, and people have fallen 100s of yards to the ground from airplanes and survived.

          But that’s the exception, not the rule.

          • Look up stats and you will see about half of people shot by 357 even to the head survive. If you want to commit suicide you use a 22lr to the braincase so it enters and then bounces around. A 357 through the mouth will bounce off the under part of the skull and come out through your teeth leaving you alive. Or even if you do aim directly at the braincase the 357 round will go through potentially leaving you alive either as a vegetable or retarded. You may be one of the lucky ones and make a full recovery due to the brain rewiring itself.

          • kyew

            Stats are not facts. Anyone using stats in an argument has admitted they have no facts.

          • Guest

            Reminds me of that ol’ boy who committed suicide by shooting himself 3 times in the back of the head.

          • You mean miles not hundreds of yds.

          • kyew

            I meant exactly what I said. It takes less than 2,000 feet for a falling body to reach terminal velocity. It wouldn’t make any difference if it was two miles or two-hundred miles, as long as it was close to 2,000 feet.

  • Dennis Mumma

    I use a S&W 500. One shot and any part of the body I hit would been blown into the next county. He would not been able to run to a hospital. But at least the good guys put them on notice. Don’t fuck with Texans.

    • Noel

      So, you carry that concealed? A woman that carries a SW.50. NOT

    • smokepole

      What is the appropriate carry caliber? Obviously the one you have with you!, and it probably wont be the 2 to 4 lb chunk of pig iron your tooting your horn about.. Its almost impossible to conceal, and would wear you out carrying it 25/7.

      • Dennis Mumma

        I am 6’2″, 240lbs. I have no problem carrying it at all, and no problem to conceal it. I have the one with the short barrel. Here is the point. I believe in gun control. If I pull a gun on you, I only have one intention and that is to kill you. So I am not going to carry around a pee shooter.

    • DeeBar

      Yeah that works but I’m only 5-8 and don’t wish to be 5-7 !

  • Ed Woodson

    Those 9mm guns are worthless. That’s why the FBI is arming all of its agents with 9mm.

    Of course, who am I to argue with those who know more than the FBI.

    Having said that, Good work guys.

    • kyew

      You don’t really understand the dynamics of gun fights, do you?

      • Ed Woodson

        I very much understand the dynamics of gunfights. Apparently, it’s you who doesn’t.

        • kyew

          When you make ignorant sarcastic comments like, “Those 9mm guns are worthless. That’s why the FBI is arming all of its agents with 9mm” when referring to a civilian self-defense shooting, you expose your ignorance. The FBI uses 9mm for higher capacity. Why? Because they’re more likely than you or I to encounter multiple assailants requiring the extra ammo. You might notice they’re not using .32 ACP, which would give them even more ammo, but leave them sucking wind in the terminal ballistics department.

          In other words, comparing the dynamics of a gun fight involving the FBI to a gun fight involving the average civilian is making some pretty huge assumptions based on ignorance.

          • DeeBar

            Who was it that answered the question why do you use a .45 and the answer was because they don’t make a .46 ! That’s why I use 10mm’s over a 9mm or a .40 , however the .40 is much better than a 9mm and hold almost as much as a 9mm . What ever floats your boat that you can handle efficiently and that’s the key . Also the FBI tried the ten loaded to .40 specs. but didn’t like the chance of collateral damage which is the main reason for the 9mm .

          • Ron Kablach

            10mm is a beast, reminds me of the good old 357 magnum.

          • DeeBar

            Actually it is more powerful than the .357 and approaches the .41 mag . It is a beast but easier to manage than what I thought it would be . My girlfriend , 5-3 and 115 pounds loves hers and is very good with it but I don’t tell her that !

          • Ron Kablach

            10mm is next on my list to buy, I have only shot one a few times and was impressed enough to make it my next edc.

          • DeeBar

            Ron , I wanted the best I could afford and bought a Colt and also a Kimber a little later . Then I bought a couple of EAA’s 4 3/4″ and a Hunter model 6″ , much less money . Really nice but not as pretty as the others and group better , have never had an issue with either one with hundreds of rounds through them . Used most of the ammo brands but now use only one . Most ammo is loaded down to .40 specs so buy wisely .

          • DeeBar

            Forgot to mention brand . ” Underwood ” Very consistent and HOT w/great prices and bullet designs .

    • wjgo

      Every reason the FBI is transitioning o the 9mm is a reason someone should have a 9mm, in particular if you belong to a residential family unit or travel with them.

  • As long as the heart is beating when someone arrives at the hospital with a gunshot they stand a good 80-95% of surviving. Most deaths due to gunshots are due to the following : bloodloss, infection. shock. People often die from gunshots to the arm or legs either from shock or bloodloss due to an artery being severed. You got a damn big one going up both legs.

  • crapsandwich

    I love happy endings

  • quest2quest

    Take a Note: Never talk to the Cops or the fucking press. And yea you “Feared for your life” your talking to cops and your not out of the woods yet.

    • Stanley B. Manley

      Sage advice.

    • medocadvikian

      Simply tell the police that you will make a statement AFTER you confer with your ATTORNEY!

      • LeeP

        and then STFU, for sure and for certain.

        • durabo

          STFU, and let investigators declare it a justified use of deadly force

      • tom56071

        best advice and get shooters insurance atleast 1 million policy its not that expensive and it will include a attorney ,criminals are protected in this country by crying liberals got more rights than law biding citizens because they make money for the judges and the crooked lawyers their revolving doors

      • troof

        I dunno, by just saying “I’m not talking” seems like you sure could invite some charges. Police are trying to figure out what happened. You say: “I want to talk to an attorney” Bad guy says “I was jus minding my own bizness an he shot me”

  • Brad D. Simonson

    Merry Christmas! Great news. Santa has already delivered.

  • NavyVet

    He survived 7 to the chest. That is why I prefer .45 to 9mm. First two would have ended his perp career

  • Noel

    That my friends is why I carry a .45 acp.

    • Stanley B. Manley

      Me too, but I also know that shot placement is a LOT more important.

    • DeeBar

      Not arguing but the ten makes the .45 look pretty puny . I have all that have been mentioned here and a few more .

  • Dave

    They must have had a shitty CCW teacher. You never indicate that you are shooting to kill, only shooting to stop the threat. I would never tell a cop that I kicked him in the face because I wan’t sure if he was dead.

  • John Burch

    cockroaches are hard to kill.

    • LeeP

      It’s best to simply squash them flat.

  • Mark Wurz

    the “slugs for thugs” program is working , every time someone drops one of these assholes the world becomes a better place

  • Guest

    Apparently someone needs to be carrying a larger caliber handgun.

  • poweralleys

    always carry an extra mag

  • Mike Gable

    Even steven.

  • abag

    A prime reason to tell gun control nuts to leave mag limits alone and go solve world hunger or homeless veterans!

  • Mike Gilmer

    Its very liberal Houston. I would still not be surprised to see the DA there prosecute these two for shooting these unfortunate youths. /sarc of course

  • AZRAEL6

    Hood rats are hard to kill.

  • Jimmy D

    God’s Good Work (TM) right there. Now if these guys worked on their post DGU statements, it’d be perfect.

  • Kevin Snyder

    “One is for shooting, one is for fun!” Which is which ;)?

  • medocadvikian

    These two ‘victims’ should be fined $1.00 and made to attend a class to imptove their aim. Twelve shots and the bad guys are still alive? I am ashamend!

  • whiskey5jda

    Who in the hell wrote this? Please someone educate them on proper gun terminology. It’s a MAGAZINE NOT A CLIP!

  • Peter Toth

    The lesson to take away from this story is….Always follow up your two to the mid section, with one to the head. Saves everyone a lot of time and money afterwards. Much cheaper to plant these scum in a cheap pine box, than to spend hundreds of thousands in medical and housing.

  • Duane Reed

    Carrying a gun while in a bar or drinking isn’t allowed here in Maine.Yikes! Glad you did what you did though.

    • kyew

      Who was carrying a gun in a bar?

  • Duane Reed

    If i were talking about a dog walking down the street would i have to call it by it’s breed?

    Come on people,we know what was meant

  • Stephen Walter

    I will bet the CCW’s were carrying .380’s. If you are carrying a .380, put some hollow points in the mag. It WILL make a difference. If you can shoot someone in the chest, twice, and someone else seven times, and they both survive, you are giving them more chances to kill you or someone else. Be safe!

  • bruce lancaster

    Total murders… Most murders are committed with hands and feet, followed by blunt objects and clubs, followed by firearms, followed by knives, followed by complex machines like cars…. So, no. You’re wrong.

  • SG Harley

    ONE SIDE OF THE STORY TOO TELL THE COPS , YOURS .

  • Big Dog9MM

    Too bad they survived….means someone else will have to kill them later….

  • wjgo

    If these gunowners, insist on using the word “clip” for magazine, I really don’t care if they go to jail.

  • bruce lancaster

    I have no dispute. This information is available on fbi.gov. If you’re too stupid to go read it, it’s not my fault. … Well, maybe it is my fault. My generation believed the democrats when they said they could teach the kids. We thought their energy and creativity would be a good fit for that sort of thing. As it turns out, they made an entire generation of under-educated and unable to think for themselves buffoons. It’s sad. It must be a pathetic existence going through life an idiot… Sorry about that.

  • jay2010master

    Bet they won’t rob any more, however kinda wish they didn’t have a choice. IE wish they died.

  • kyew

    What it boils down to is the world is full of pedants. They have to emphasize their knowledge of vernacular to cover for their lack of knowledge about actual firearms. The only people I ever see trying to “enforce” the proper terminology for magazines are mall ninjas.

  • Panzer

    Leaving a bar, anyone else think the thugs assumed that theyd be disarmed due to leaving the bar…??

    • kyew

      Very likely. Not only unarmed, but also slow on the uptake. Looks like they miscalculated and paid for it (though not harshly enough).

  • durabo

    Stop using FMJ (“hardball) ammo or self-defense!

  • tom56071

    they need to get a regular job and not rob people God was not ready for them maybe he thinks their worth saving ,houston is a shit hole just like new orleans i avoid those places if i can you need to take a tank along or a nuke if you plan to get out alive

  • tom56071

    women dont carry guns in your purse carry on u purses can be snatched this is how bad guys get guns

  • bruce lancaster

    No. I’m using the pdf’s at fbi.gov. Why aren’t you? It’s all right there… and one thing we can sure learn from them is that the thugs in Chicago are way worse shots than the thugs in Camden NJ or Detroit MI. If you’re going to an urban hellhole, you want to go to either Chicago or to Baton Rouge. When you get shot in one of those places, you have a far greater chance of survival than Lon Angeles, for instance. We can also learn that the thugs in Philadelphia are getting better with practice. As they shoot more people, they are getting to be better shots. Their deadliness has doubled in 5 years.

  • FW190

    Mess with the bull ya get the horns…

  • Advocate

    My brother is an ER surgeon in a major city. No matter how badly injured a patient is, if they have 5+ tattoos or a teeth-to-tattoo ratio <1, they always survive.