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WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC – VA Gunman Uploads Video Of Shooting From His Perspective, Lingered Before Pulling Trigger

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Breaking news came out of VA this morning when a reporter and cameraman were shot and killed on live TV. Now, the gunman uploaded a video of his own from his perspective as the shooting occurred.

We are posting this as a debate platform, and to learn from this absolutely horrendous crime from one sick individual.

As you can see from the video, the gunman held his firearm in clear view for upwards of 20 seconds. No one in the area saw it until it was too late. This is a sad reminder of how important situational awareness is, and how we must be on guard at all times.

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UPDATE (11:57 AM): VA State Police are presently confirming whether or not the coward in question has shot himself.  If he has – it was the best use of a bullet all day.

UPDATE 2 (12:10 PM): Confirmed.  Shooter died from self-inflicted gunshot wound.

UPDATE 3 (12:19 PM):  Video from shooter’s perspective is down.  Awaiting word as to whether we will attempt to recover and post from a different source.

UPDATE 4 (01:07 PM):  Video from shooter’s perspective is being hosted on Ebaumsworld and is embedded above.

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Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady…

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  • Artemis Grey

    It’s already removed

    • Mike Lindsey

      Anybody got a working link?

      • This post has been updated with a working link. Please proceed with caution.

  • kratos13

    i managed to save the POV vid on my macbook and here’s a screenshot from it.

    • As graphic as this image is, it’s important to realize the context. This mentally ill man held his firearm like this for upwards of 20 seconds before pulling the trigger. No one saw it until it was too late. This is a testament to situational awareness, and how we should NEVER let our guard down. Head on a swivel. Today is a sad day.

      • Tracy A. Goode

        They were working. A news reporter has to focus on her interviewee; the camera man on both and the interviewee on the interviewer. No one else appeared to be around. This is really sad.

        • ShiningKnight

          Oh, here we go with the focusing bullshit. Anyone ever hear of peripheral vision???????

        • Jonah

          I agree Tracy. The shooter knew how things work. He’s did this work professionally. He knew how close he could get and what he could get away with. He was a psycho but not bat shit crazy. He had a plan. He was flaunting how close he could get.

      • Eric

        never let our guard down, because there are crazies out there able to legally obtain guns and shoot us. Seriously? I feel like there is a better solution instead of “stay paranoid at all times”. I dunno maybe something like… better gun control?

        • khelmar

          what had the shooter done in the past to be blacklisted from having a firearm? He was fired from the station and was upset about it (apparently).

          Nobody is a criminal until they are. Until that happens gun control does nothing.

        • ShiningKnight

          More gun control would not have prevented this tragedy. What they need to do is fix the mental health system, fix the NICS system and how mental health records are fed into the database. If that system worked, he would not have been able to purchase a firearm. This guy had so many indicators it’s not even funny. His friends and family knew he had mental health issues, yet no one stepped up and did anything about it.

      • ShiningKnight

        Amen. I just got laughed at on another forum for stating exactly what you said in this post. Some people just don’t understand.

    • liberalssuck

      Look at the nails. It looks like a light skinned black.

  • Artemis Grey

    Also, I’m IN central VA, and our police are saying he is NOT dead. He’s being treated for a self-inflicted gunshot. But the last report is that he’s still alive.

  • DollarBill

    This is pitiful! If that SOB is not dead let the doctor that’s working on him SLIP WITH THE SCALPEL and finish the job!

    • Jonah

      I would much rather see him get the death penalty. Why should he get to suffer so little.

  • DollarBill

    And by the way,WHO is taping the video from the killer’s perspective? This person should also be tried for MURDER!

    • angel

      he was wearing a go pro

      • Dave

        GoPro cameras shoot HD video, and not vertical orientation like a cell phone camera. This video is low-res and blurry, just like the news camera footage. Have you ever seen a news broadcast look as blurry as the video they claim is from the news camera? No, it’s a fake shooting.

        • smarterthandave

          Dave, have you considered starring in the next “fake shooting”. You could be the guy that runs away after being shot three times by a low caliber handgun.

          • Dave

            Wow and you took the time to make an account just to troll me. You’re a real winner!

          • smarterthandave

            Do you know what a troll is? You must first be a by standard.
            I always create a new account when posting, I believe in my right to remain anonymous.

            You are probably in your teens. Someday you’ll finish your education, or you’ll die mad at the world for always conspiring against you.

            Do your parents know that you’re on the internet?

          • ShiningKnight

            Amen!!

      • CoMacDavid

        He was actually holding his own cell phone recording himself. You can see he wields the pistol with only his right hand.

  • ValleyCounty

    Something wrong here … The police say a BLACK person was the shooter, but this video clearly shows a WHITE hand holding the gun ????

    • Shanelle Syma

      He was a black man with a light complexion… Look up the shooter’s photo.

    • liberalssuck

      I thought that too. I will wait for more facts.

  • Dave

    HOW DOES SHE RUN AWAY AFTER GETTING SHOT MULTIPLE TIMES AT POINT BLANK RANGE!?!?! THIS IS A FAKE SHOOTING AND THIS VIDEO PROVES IT 100% !!!!!

    • Whiskey_Tango

      Not at all. You don’t die immediately. Your heart is till pumping blood, your nerves are still firing and your lungs still work until you lose enough blood. She was motivated by fear so adrenalin kicked in. Unless bones are broken or you are shot right in the head you are still able to put up a fight…For a little bit.

      • Dave

        You can clearly see that she is not hit by anything. And how did they not notice this big guy waving a gun in their faces? IT’S TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT.

        • Whiskey_Tango

          You can’t at all clearly see that she was hit. All you can see is her flinch and run. That does not really say one way or another whether or not she was hit. We will rely on the autopsy report for that. Video never answers every question we may or may not have.

          They did not see the “big guy waving the gun in their faces” because he didn’t. Parker was speaking to the interviewee while Ward had his back to the gunman and was filming his coworker.

          Dave, not everything is a conspiracy.

          • Dave

            There’s only 3 people there, and you don’t notice a big guy pointing a gun at you less than 3 feet away? Holy shit people just use your fucking brain! There won’t be an autopsy because it’s a fake shooting!

          • Whiskey_Tango

            So what do you think happened?

          • Dave

            They staged a shooting – like every other fake shooting they’ve been doing lately – so the government can propagandize and say they need to take Americans’ guns.

          • firechild

            So two people aren’t dead and there isn’t a woman in surgery right now? No offense Dave, you’re an idiot

          • Dave

            They can tell you whatever they want and you idiots will believe it.

          • Bam4891

            go stick your head in the toilet and flush it you moron

          • Bam4891

            you are one of the dumbest mother F-ers I’ve ever come across

        • CoMacDavid

          If you notice well, she flinches the instant you hear the shot, and still before screaming. The flinch indicative of some sort of force acting on her. Given the fact that it’s a 9mm, it has neither the power to knock her down, nor the calibre to make her die instantly. However strange it is that they not see the gunman, there is a thing called perceptual blindness.

        • liberalssuck

          Actually, you can see the impact, clothing moving and other tells. Seriously dude, this was a real shooting.

      • ron

        You dont drop to the ground unless you are shot in the head. you bleed out and prob dont realize you were shot for a short amount of time.

    • BondSan

      unless you get shot in the spine, head or knees, you’re going to run for a quite a bit. he missed with the first few shots anyway. gun is kicking about wildly and he was holding a cell phone in the other hand. once he put the cell phone down he probably steadied his aim and finished them.

      • Dave

        Oh yeah and then he had time to post his video to Facebook and Twitter, and THEN he had time to go FAX his 23-page ‘manifesto’ to the police. Where’d he go? Kinkos? Come on guys, fucking think for a second…

  • Mark Ward

    Now was the monkey and the blonde reporter in some kind of freaky sex affair in the past. Cause if he wasn’t involved with her then why kill the cameraman. If he was involved a fit of jealousy because the camaraman and the blonde reporter was having one at the time of the shooting. Notice he didn’t intentually try to hit the counselwoman but he was wanting to kill the blonde real bad. some kind of bad blood and I wanna know the real truth. If anyone has the dirt let us all know.

    • Whiskey_Tango

      The camera man had filed a complaint against him with the stations HR department.

    • wysoft

      Shooter was gay, so probably not. Maybe she stole some guy who he imagined would become his boy toy. In all reality it just appears that he killed them because whitey.

    • ron

      He felt she was racists and the camera man was part of why he was fired..Pretty well documented stuff here.

    • Jonah

      She, they, were soft targets.

  • kratos13

    i’ve frame by frame’d the POV numerous times today and i cannot get it out of my head that i THINK the reporter saw the guy actually pull the gun out and up and did nothing (per the video, she looks to her right as the gun lifts up and enters the frame)….and as shown in my earlier post pic he pulled the gun out at the 19 sec mark and from this snap you can see he fired at the 42 sec mark….this whole thing is just F’d beyond description…he stood there for a full 20 something seconds waiving a gun around and the 2 ladies did nothing. the cameraman had his head in the camera so he had no SA at all on what was going on

    • Dave

      Yep, fake shooting. Total bullshit. It looks like a shooter video game for Christ sake.

      • saboats

        You are an idiot. How’s that tin foil hat fitting?

        • Dave

          And you’re a fucking idiot if you watch this video and think it’s real. Shut the fuck up with your “conspiracy theorist” bullshit… IT’S PLAYED OUT DICKHEAD!

          • saboats

            Witty retort, clearly in line with your elementary level of education.

          • Dave

            Yeah, and your tin foil hat joke is so original.

          • saboats

            But fitting.

            I worked too many of these scenes that the ‘infowars’ types claim are a false flag. Pretty realistic in person, haven treated some of these types of victims. I must say, the government must be pretty good at faking sucking chest wounds, or dead bodies to fool the medical workers who actually see these types of things in real life.

          • Dave

            This woman was not wounded. How was she able to run away after being shot 4 times?!?!?

          • ron

            dave, youtube search garage robbery….you can watch a ton of videos. people get shot, they run.

          • Dave

            Most people would run when they first saw the gun – you know, when he sat there and waved it in her face for a good 30 seconds?

          • liberalssuck

            Nope, you have to much faith in humans. Most are extremely unaware.

          • Dave

            That’s the truth.

          • Bam4891

            What video are you watching? He didn’t wave the gun in her face. He was behind the camera man and off to the side of the reporter. The reporter was interviewing a woman so both of them were looking at each other. Have a heart you piece of $hit.

          • Dave

            Watch his POV video – he comes within 3 feet of the reporter waving the gun around and you’re gonna tell me she didn’t notice a big 6ft black guy with a gun in her face? Durrrr….

          • Bam4891

            How is he waving the gun around? He points the gun but is holding it steady not waving it around. And the gun was not in her face. The shooter was off to her side and she was looking straight at the woman. Why are you so eager to say otherwise? It doesn’t matter anyway. They were doomed.

          • Jonah

            You’re spot on Bam. These are professionals. They are used to working around the public and tune them out to focus on the story. It’s their job. No one wants to watch a reporter who is constantly glancing around. And the killer knew this, because he was a reporter as well.

          • Moses George

            How can you tell how close he is from these videos? At best you’re guessing. If he was 3 feet away from them he would have touched the reporter with his extended gun arm. ..

          • MariV

            Keep in mind that adrenaline can do some crazy things to the body in an attempt to survive. I’ve also read other people comment that its fake because there is no blood. Did they really expect blood to immediately poor out? It doesn’t happen like that. It takes time to saturate clothes, which the video is too short to show. Additionally, she is wearing a black top which wouldn’t immediately show blood stains either. It’s ok for people to speculate and have an opinion on whether it is real or not. However, I dislike the disrespectful comments that are being thrown around, because I do believe it is real. As such, two people lost their lives, and I hope they rest in peace and their family/loved ones find peace as well.

          • pennm51 .

            simple—–it was reported that she was shot in the back

          • Dave

            Oh well it was ‘reported’ – I guess it’s true then!

          • RealityCheque

            Two extremes: Believe everything you hear/see, or think everything is a conspiracy. Are you somewhere in the middle, or do you fall on one of those extremes?

          • saboats

            Fight or flight response. Endogenous epinephrine and norepinephrine are released in the CNS.

            Ever seen a dear shot? It can run 1/2 mile with both lungs down from a high caliber round based on the same thing.

            And how far did she go? 10-20 feet? Unless it was a head shot that’s entirely plausible.

          • Dave

            She’s not a deer, she’s a fucking 100 lb little girl.

          • Aaron Lechner

            I didn’t think they allowed people in mental institutions access to the internet. But you’re probably just trolling so the jokes on us I guess…

          • Dave

            Durrr good one!

          • Jonah

            Yeah but when that adrenaline kicks in she has the strength and power of a deer or other large animal. That same 100 pound woman could squeeze a 10 pound baby out of a hole that ain’t very big. You know how? Chemical changes in her body give her that ability. I’m not faking this. It’s actual well known science

          • BondSan

            I heard was pretty big. Just sayin.

          • liberalssuck

            People get shot all the time and are found yards away. Ever just hit the lungs on a deer, I have had them run for over 100 yards.
            So yea it is not like the movies.
            Also we had concerns about the 9 fmj’s just going thru and not making a serious wound channel, why we went to 40’s. So yea. Now what is your proof that this was staged?

          • Dave

            Just look at it!

          • liberalssuck

            I did. I saw nothing to indicate a false shooting.

          • Jonah

            Because she wanted to live. She was in flight mode right up until the moment she drew her last breath.

          • ShiningKnight

            Adrenaline, you fucking dimwit.

          • Suck a dick stupid little cunt

            Suck a mother fucking dick you little bitch prick asshole. Eat shit fucker

          • Jonah

            Who is that directed at?

          • mark

            you’re disgusting. you’re insulting her calling her an idiot and mocking her trying to escape an attack on her? You’re attempting to reduce the last moments of a dead woman…someone who just died several hours ago? you’re fucking soulless.

          • Dave

            NO ONE DIED!

          • Adam Alexander

            Are you serious? Both the Cameraman and the reporter are dead.

          • Jonah

            I want to live in Dave world where every bad thing is staged and no one ever really dies. PS Dave. If the shooter would have used a .45 or a shotgun she woulda went right down. But he chose a small caliber bullet.

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            9/11 people died. current psy-ops are meant to have the same effects (law changes) WITHOUT the body count. so far, they are doing a decent job. boston, newtown etc. however, the crisis actors are obviously a dead giveaway! no pun intended :)

          • Xaviersp

            Dave, it’s hard to add anything to what everybody has said, but you are certifiably insane if you believe that nobody died. If nobody died, then what happened with the shooting victims, Parker and Ward? These people have been on TV and the media for a LONG time. In other words, they have been seen by many people. Where will they go after the “false shooting”? What happens with them? Will they hide for the rest of their lives? And for what purpose? What about their real family’s pain? Once you start pondering these questions, you realize your theory makes no sense.

          • canamm

            Xaviersp, don’t try to reason with stupidity. Dave’s obviously watched too much TV and it sucked his brains out.

          • I don’t think Dave is insane. In fact he’s far more objective than those who “see and believe”. Question everything, it’s a hallmark of freedom.

          • Dave

            She’s an ACTOR in a STAGED SHOOTING. It’s bullshit.

          • RealityCheque

            Is there a set way these things are supposed to look?

          • Dave

            Well I know if I got shot at point blank range, and this girl weighs probably 100 lbs., I would be on the ground in some pain. But no, she just waltzes away in her little heels screaming like an idiot…

          • ron

            learn a little bit more about being shot…its not like the movies, friend. People don’t even realize theyve been shot for a short time. There’s also a video of a man in brazil shooting some kids who tried to rob him. the kid died almost 300 yards away after running…

          • Dave

            Why can’t you guys figure out that these shootings have an AGENDA behind them? They covered all the bases on this one – racism, homophobia, the fake Charleston shooting, bullying, gun control, a 23-page manifesto, and of course he kills himself… I’m surprised they haven’t claimed he was with ISIS too! Whatever, you guys wanna keep believing the horse shit coming from this criminal government and we’ll see how that turns out.

          • Bam4891

            I think you should move to another planet. I won’t miss you.

          • Jonah

            Ok. I am for you not having a gun Dave. You fall under that category of delusional and mentally ill. I spent some time in Iraq. 9mm and 5.56 are small rounds that move really fast. I’m not kidding the closer you are to a 5.56 round the less damage it does. It just passes right through. And then person above is correct. This ain’t the movies. People desire to live and adrenaline is a powerful force. It really breaks my heart because I know she was just reflexively trying to live. She didn’t run to far. It’s a tragic event perpetrated by a mad man. A nut job who also saw the boogeyman everywhere. Ease up bro.

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            keep spreading the mental illness agenda. its obvious. are you paid to post on here? who do you work for?

          • Jonah

            Really? You don’t think that people who suffer from serious mental illness shouldn’t have access to firearms? Alright then. I speak for no one but myself and I have no agenda. I’m a veteran. Im an American. I’ve earned the right to say what I think and I think in our society that there are a few people who shouldn’t have access to guns. I don’t want someone who hears voices, or sees people who aren’t real telling them to hurt people, to have a gun. You f***ing moron!!!

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            Stop pretending that the guy heard voices or had illusions. He was just pissed, supposedly. Kinda like you seem to be pissed. I guess I should take away your gun, you lost that right by being an angry bastard. You like where this is going?

            I suggest you chill out, and stop calling people names. Especially when they still have the ability to think for themselves. Maybe you should lay off the CNN and fox news for a bit. I hear it rots your brain ;)

          • Dave, people like you remind me off my old friend and room mate. Every month she would say, I know I’m pregnant (she was trying) and for eleven months her test came back not pregnant. Finally on the twelve month of trying and saying she was pregnant, she was and she was like ” I told you I was pregnant”. Eventually you conspiracy people will be right and you will have your glory, but for now I think your going to miss out on that glory. When that day does come, you will feel so much smarter than the rest of us, more than you already do way up on your throne.

          • Dave

            What the fuck are you going on about?

          • George

            So right!

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            dont forget the new hype: mental illness. they will say anything to make people believe in gun control. these are fear tactics, plain and simple. thanks government! thanks hollywood. thanks crisis actors. thanks stupid gullable people..!

          • I can back you on this statement, it’s not like the movies. I got shot from 15 feet away, in my right side of my ribs, went through my chest and out the other side. As soon as I saw the gun, I turned to run, but only halfway around I got shot. as I turned fully around, went to run, I heard “click, click, click” because his gun jammed. I went from flight to fight in less than a second, jumped the guy and beat him close to death. after it was all done and the cops arrived on scene, I finally passed out.

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            LOL you are funny… did you dream that last night after watching a hollywood flick? silly guy!

          • Yd

            Just because you’re a pussy ass bitch who can’t take pain doesn’t mean others can’t

          • LvGordo

            There’s a great post right there.

          • TN/NC Lover

            Our Local TV Station in Johnson City TN..Has been Live there at the Scene..THESE PEOPLE WHO DIED HAD FAMILY..CO-WORKERS..FRIENDS…WHO ALL ARE IN SHOCK AND MOURNING THE DEATHS OF THESE 2..NOT TO MENTION THE LADY BEING INTERVIEWED HAD A BULLET REMOVED FROM HER BACK…IT EVEN SHOWS THE MANS FB PAGE COMMENTS & WHERE HE PULLED OVER & SHOT HIS SELF..AND EVEN THAT MAN HAS FAMILY WHO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS..ARE MOURNING & IN SHOCK I WOULD IMAGINE..I KNOW I WOULD BE..I THINK PEOPLE WHO WOULD SAY THIS IS AN ACT…REALLY NEED TO RETHINK YOUR WORDS…I LIVE TOO CLOSE TO THIS AREA TO KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AWFUL TRAGEDY…LOTS OF PEOPLE NEEDS OUR PRAYERS & SUPPORT INSTEAD OF SAYING THESE NASTY COMMENTS..

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            crisis actors. they are terrible!! the fake tears are a dead giveaway lol

          • TN/NC Lover

            YD..I Did not direct my comment at you…Hope u didn’t take it that way…

          • Dave

            Why don’t you just shoot yourself then and see how much you enjoy it?

          • Planr

            Wow you are a huge asshole

          • Matt k

            Well first off, if you have ever been shot you would know you don’t feel the entry of the bullet, and adrenaline takes over. You would be able to run. I believe this video looks fake because of the fact these people didn’t notice this man 3 feet from them waving a gun. But this is actually real!! Crazy how our world has gotten and how crazy the people in it are!!

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            green screens getting better? crazy!! i know :)

          • Bam4891

            you have no idea how you would react until you were actually in such a situation. and i would hardly call what she did waltzing. you’re life must be that sad that you have to come on here and be a total a-hole.

          • Chris Dawson

            When the human body is under emence stress then adrenaline is released. She probably didn’t realise she was shot til seconds after. Flight or fight mode kicking in.

          • Richard Nguyen

            Have you ever hunted before? I doubt it, since you would know that unless you land a perfect shot, there will times when you must track an animal down. Its not a movie where people just fall over. Your comment was just inflammatory and stupid.

            My heart breaks for the victims. May God be with them and their families.

          • I think it’s funny that the people posting on here saying it’s fake don’t have a profile picture….are you real? or are you just trolls leaving in a cave?

          • Jonah

            As long as we’re talking paranoid theories, here’s mine. I believe that people who post that this is fake are actually Libs with a gun agenda who want the world to think people who don’t share their views are all crazy nut jobs. That’s my theory.

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            like that is your real photo…. stop playing, joker! its obvious you are full of it.

          • Bobo

            Your a fucking moron

          • Bob Rennier (SEMO Homesteader)

            Unlike what you see coming out of Hollywood, a gun, especially a pistol, doesn’t ‘knock” a person down even if that person is hit with a large caliber weapon. The only time a someone would immediately drop is if the CNS is hit. Death comes through blood loss then shock. If a person survives these two things after being shot and then dies later it is usually due to infection and/or extensive organ damage.

            On another note, situational awareness helps to possibly avoid life threatening incidents, but as one poster stated, “If someone really wants you dead, you’re dead.”

            Prayers to family and friends on these two young people.

          • Jonah

            I don’t know what your definition of real is but these people are all DEAD! They died from gunshot wounds this morning. the victims were not soldiers or law enforcement or people who would ever think in a million years that someone would be standing there with a gun pointed at them. But that is what happened per both videos. It seems weird because it is weird. But it happened none the less

          • urIgnoranceIsFunny

            how do YOU know they’re dead? and just because you saw it in a video, IT’S TRUE AND REAL??? come on, seriously, you’ve never heard of Hollywood?? LOLOLLLLLLLLLL man, people just believe what they’re told without ever questioning it hahahahahaha good luck in life with that!

          • Jonah

            Wow. I have heard of Hollywood. It’s in California. This shooting didn’t happen there. Look at the video. THEY ARE IN VIRGINIA! Where those people were shot. They are dead! Maybe they should take pictures of their dead, bullet riddled bodies so you can have your proof. Forget how the family might feel about it. Are you a Christian? Can you prove Jesus lived, or died on the cross? Or did you just believe everything you were told? Unlike Jesus, I watched those people get killed. People like you are the ones with a no gun agenda point to to make the rest of us look like idiots. I’m sick of it. Go back to Texas and get ready for the Obama invasion.

          • Not a real gun, did not happen.

          • Chuck

            I’m from roanoke you fuck…and yes they are dead the camera man was my wife’s friend…some people are so fucking stupid

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            dude you are such a TERRIBLE liar. please, give it a rest. NOBODY believes a word lol

          • brooklyn15

            What are you smoking to make these comments of yours?

          • Planr

            All of the events that occurred in this incident are real. None of this is staged or fake. You can go and check multiple respected and professional sources, all of which verify this event as being genuine, not faked, as well as the video evidence of both the tv crews footage and the gunman’s.

            Common sense says that when everyone is telling the same story and they can all back it up with facts, it is more than likely the truth. Of course, I suppose you would probably just resort to some bullshit retort like “They’re all saying the same things because the illuminati/FEMA/whatever made them do it! It’s all just a big conspiracy!”.

            I’m willing to bet you also believe other retarded tinfoil neckbeard edgelord nonsense like that 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, that Michael Jackson faked his death and is still alive, and that aliens landed in Rockwell in 1949.

          • Aaron

            The event is without a doubt real. Two very real people are dead. Conspiracy theory bullshit aside I think the ABOVE VIDEO is fake. I believe there likely was a video from the killers perspective but this isn’t it. I very well may be wrong as I wasn’t there but I have difficulty believing that a man that had such a rough history with the victim would just go unnoticed during a broadcast on location blatantly waiving full size handgun around. I think it’s more plausible that this video is taken by a third party and the gunman was edited in. We’re watching the shooting unfold but not from the shooters perspective.

          • guest

            and how do YOU know these 2 people are dead?

          • Stupidshit

            The woman in all white would have blood on her, the 100 pound reporter just got shot three times up close point blank range she would have hit the ground not turned and ran in heels, I’ve shot guns, I’ve seen people shot with guns, this is beyond ridiculous to have people even contemplating if it is real or fake. The three people there at six something in the morning don’t look and see a random person when no one else is present walk up on them, you got to be kidding me. It’s natural instinct you hear someone you look, and slow the video down she looked. She knew he was there. It was some bullshit. Go fuck yourself Obama some people are retarded as fuck and stuck at home watch pretty little liars. Lmao they know the deal

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            plausible, i suppose. STILL, that is really sketchy! who and why made the video then?

          • RJ

            I think you are a tad closed-minded on 9/11 if you can’t believe straight science behind countless investigations, interviews, and even a movie that was held from being released to the public.. I think we need to think out of the box a tad more.. or look at our other historical flaws that we still haven’t learned from..

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            Americans have been bred to NOT think critically. they never criticize ANYTHING. USA is doomed. game over… spoon-fed idiots…. and they think they are exceptional LOL. exceptionally stupid and fat and spoiled…!

          • Then where are the casings from the expended rounds? Your post is 100% rubbish – as is this shooting.

        • bobfairlane

          http://t.co/MGRgV5r1F6 Best go buy some foil yourself

          • saboats

            Do you have any idea of who press TV is?

            No?

            Let me educate you: Press TV (stylised PRESSTV) is a 24-hour English language news and documentary network, affiliated with Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). IRIB is state-owned but independent of the Iranian government in its management; the IRIB is a legal TV and radio broadcaster inside Iran. Press TV is headquartered in Tehran, Iran, but has offices and bureaus around the world, including London, Beirut, Damascus, Kabul, and the Gaza Strip. Press TV began broadcasting HDTV on the Hot Bird satellite cluster since 13 January, 2014. The network’s slogan is “News Anew”. Their mainpage is presstv.ir

            You really want to use a propaganda website operated by Iran as your source? Idiocy knows no bounds, nice try .

          • bobfairlane

            Fuck your shooting hoaxes. Yes, idiocy knows no bounds. You idiots still want to push the shooting hoax, even after it’s come out the bitch recorded two takes, and her father is a scummy Crisis Actor.

          • saboats

            You truly are a few cards short.

      • TN/NC Lover

        Man..For You to make a comment like that…You must be Totally Fake Yourself…

        Your prob. a kid…acting like a Man…Well I can tell u ITS NOT FAKE…I LIVE TOO CLOSE TO THIS AREA…TO KNOW THIS IS REALITY…ANOTHER 2 LIVES TAKEN..FOR WHAT? BECAUSE HE GOT HIS FEELING HURT..PPL GET THEIR FEELINGS HURT EVERYDAY…BUT IF EVERYBODY KILLED THE PERSON OVER IT..THIS KIND OF THING WOULD BE HAPPENING EVERY 5 SECONDS..

      • ShiningKnight

        Dude, you’re an idiot

      • Robert Dickinson

        Dave you sure do seem to have an awful lot of experience with the behavior of gunshot victims. Ah….where do you work? As for the rest of you folks, Dave is a narcissistic sociopath. He’ll say anything to generate some attention. Ignore him!! He has had his five minutes of fame.

      • Xaviersp

        If it was fake, why on earth have the fake shooter make a POV video where everybody would be able to make a frame-by-frame analysis and debunk the claim that they were dead? If there was some government conspiracy, wouldn’t the cameraman footage be sufficient? Think about these questions and your theory makes ZERO sense

      • Erik

        is it that bad that your brain wouldn’t except the reality of the situation

      • watch the video in slow motion. No shell casing ejection…

    • anon

      IM SAYING, there IS something wrong with this picture, besides the obvious wrong, there is something very wrong with this whole thing!!!

    • Bam4891

      it’s waving not waiving and that is not what he did. he held his gun up, that is all. ya it’s beyond F’ed up, but remember the camera man had his back to the gunman and the women were doing an interview… they wouldn’t be looking anywhere else besides at each other. i don’t see where she ever looked to the right and saw the guy and the gun. not like it would have made a difference. the piece of $hit would have shot them anyway.

    • ZERO shell casings ejected, ZERO rounds fired. It’s a staged hoax magic trick. No bullets, no victims, and 319 million witnesses…

  • Laurie Cestnick

    This discussion should NOT be about “being more aware of things around you” ..what then ..duck? you kidding me? The lesson here should be about GETTING RID OF GUNS IN AMERICA!!! ..NO MORE NONSENSE ..NO MORE RIDICULOUSNESS ..JUST GET RID OF GUNS! THESE ARE THE FACTS: 35,000 gun deaths each year in US; 1/3 suicides, 1/3 accidents, 1/3 homicides and only a couple of hundred self defense!!! ..there is NO LOGIC in having guns in this country ..and it is the paranoid and senseless people doing the screaming to keep them ..their only true reason for wanting a gun “I like guns” ..well the rest of us want to live. GET RID OF GUNS IN AMERICA! IT WORKED IN AUSTRALIA AND UK AND OTHER PLACES …JUST GET RID OF THE DAMN GUNS ALREADY!

    • CoMacDavid

      You realize that would absolutely destroy the US economy, right? Remember the prohbition of alcohol? That didn’t work. Taking guns away 100% is impossible. Guns are NOT illegal in the UK and Australia, though they are tightly regulated. Welcome to the herd of “paranoid and senseless people”.

      • Laurie Cestnick

        You are wrong. Guns are illegal in Australia. If you are going to comment, make sure you know your facts and have something intelligent to say. You could learn a little here ..good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE

        • CoMacDavid

          Woman, a comedy show is not a reliable source of facts, especially when it’s a biased one. They never once stated that it is explicitly illegal to own a firearm. Now, why don’t you do a little research. http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/australia.php

          • Laurie Cestnick

            “Man” (my name is not Woman ;) …here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLMqo1TP7fY

          • Laurie Cestnick

            I was living in Australia in 1996 when the massacre occurred at port arthur Tasmania ..thereafter ..the prime minister made a call for guns to be handed in and destroyed ..there are some guns still allowed for hunting ..that’s it ..and they must be hunting rifles. Not many aussies hunt anyway.

          • CoMacDavid

            I’m aware of the regulations, and regulations I am not against. Those were some of the stupidest answers in the interview with the 2nd amendment stop sign. I just want you to realize, blanket statements are not a good way to make points, that’s pretty much how the Tea Party began, because a huge group of people misunderstood a blanket statement and lost their minds. Do not speak in absolutes.

        • Eric Wigley

          Oh wow… Try and use that source in college and see how your professor responds. Actually, I am just going to assume that you have not been to college and are probably soap boxing for my tax dollars to fund your schooling. Therefore it is painfully obvious why you think this is even remotely credible. By the way, you do not deserve free college. No one does. Do you even pay taxes and know what the hell I am talking about?

          Guns are not illegal in Australia nor are they banned in Great Britian. Do not tell others they are wrong and to “know your facts” when you are wrong to begin with. Here is a fun fact, Canadians can get several firearms that have been banned from importation to the USA for a couple decades now. Want me to name one? Sure. The SVT-40, which costs $1500 in the USA if you can even find one, is widely available in Canada for $300 bucks.

          Just so you know, posting the same video twice does not increase its effectiveness nor does it make you look smart.

          Oh yeah, so far it appears as though the shooter is a Liberal Social Justice Warrior crying about how the white lady was racist. Just pointing that little bit out.

    • Heather Rose Moore

      Arm more people legally and crime goes down because the criminals know that we will fight back. We have to protect ourselves. If you ban guns we will have a war on them just like we do on drugs. It will drain the economy financially and the only people who will have them will be the criminals! Then we’re all in a world of trouble. Not a society I would want to live in.

      • BritishRevolt

        Fight guns with more Guns!!

        Typical American retarded logic, you won’t learn and the school,cinema and other public shootings and massacres will continue until you do.. People like you make me sick.

        • ShiningKnight

          Are you a naturalized US citizen? If not, STFU and go take your own country back from the radical Muslims who are slowly destroying it from within. K, thanks.

        • Connie Criscitello

          you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are already living under a fascist government. The gov’t can break your door down, without a warrant, lock you up….for as long as they want if they deem you a threat. (one thing among many they list as a threat is someone missing a finger). SEE: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, Pub.L. 112–81. This NDAA contains several controversial sections (see article), the chief being §§ 1021-1022, which affirm provisions authorizing the indefinite military detention of civilians, including U.S. citizens, without habeas corpus or due process, contained in the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub.L. 107–40.[6]

          DUE TO EXECUTIVE ORDERS right now, and I quote:
          “The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all menas of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all Americans…

          Most [of these laws] remain a a potential source of virtually unlimited power for a President should he choose to activate them. It is possible that some future President could exercise this vast authority in an attempt to place the United States under authoritarian rule.

          While the danger of a dictatorship arising through legal means may seem remote to us today, recent history records Hitler seizing control through the use of the emergency powers provisions contained in the laws of the Weimar Republic.”

          –Joint Statement, Sens. Frank Church (D-ID) and Charles McMathias (R-MD) September 30, 1973

          Things have changed a bit since 1973…..maybe these E/O’s need to be looked at again???????

          Wake up and educate yourself. You are no longer free. The Cato institute puts out a freedom index every year which loosely measures the freedom enjoyed by a country’s citizens…..this year 2015 USA = 20 HONG KONG = 1.

          I am so sick of stupid people begging the government….yes the TYRANNICAL government to take more of our rights away. If you are too stupid to value the freedom we once had in this country….think about what it is going to be like for your children. They will be living under total oppression….the 2nd amendment is the only freedom we have left…..

        • liberalssuck

          Sorry liberal, you screwed your country, now live with it. Here gun ownership up, crime down. Those are facts. Not that will stop you from spouting your nonesense. .

      • Laurie Cestnick

        so the economy is more important than lives ..good argument

        • liberalssuck

          Whelp if gun are so dangerous, how does anyone make it out of guns shows alive, lmao.

    • John Smith

      hey jackass – knives are deadly. Are you going to ban knives? more than 25 people were killed in China by a man with a knife. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/

      • Laurie Cestnick

        spoken like an intelligent person …so ..American’s are like Bruce Lee? ..could have killed 3 people with a knife just like that? Why is it that the ones who want guns have the most intelligent things to say

        • John Smith

          so how’s the gun ban working in Mexico? Not so much. How’s the gun ban in the UK? Not so much. Hitler banned guns – how did that work for the Jews? http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/guns-in-other-countries/

          • Laurie Cestnick

            This is where LOGIC needs to be applied. You are in the US where 35,000 gun deaths happen every year …where over 100 school shootings have occurred in the past couple of years alone ..where massacres occur every 2 months. If there is a GUN BAN in the US …almost 300 self-defense deaths will not occur ..but approximately 22,000 deaths will likely not occur …and likely more than that . The cost of guns would sky rocket making it next to impossible for the average dirt bags to get them …automatic weapons available for a couple of thousand at WALMART in America cost several tens of thousands now in Australia with a gun ban ($30,000 – $100,000 per gun versus $1000 – $3000 in the US). The chances of the United States gov wanting ti use guns to kill off it’s citizens is next to NIL ..the chances of you killing yourself or neighbor or friend is one trilliion time the likelihood of a paranoid gov take over conspiracy theory. This is why stupid people should not make guns laws …use logic.

          • Connie Criscitello

            Laurie how often do you go to the Congress/White house websites and read legislation that is being passed? You practically have to be a constitutional lawyer to understand some of it, but you absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are already living under a fascist government. The gov’t can break your door down, without a warrant, lock you up….for as long as they want if they deem you a threat. (one thing among many they list as a threat is someone missing a finger). SEE: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, Pub.L. 112–81. This NDAA contains several controversial sections (see article), the chief being §§ 1021-1022, which affirm provisions authorizing the indefinite military detention of civilians, including U.S. citizens, without habeas corpus or due process, contained in the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub.L. 107–40.[6]

            DUE TO EXECUTIVE ORDERS right now, and I quote:
            “The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all menas of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all Americans…

            Most [of these laws] remain a a potential source of virtually unlimited power for a President should he choose to activate them. It is possible that some future President could exercise this vast authority in an attempt to place the United States under authoritarian rule.

            While the danger of a dictatorship arising through legal means may seem remote to us today, recent history records Hitler seizing control through the use of the emergency powers provisions contained in the laws of the Weimar Republic.”

            –Joint Statement, Sens. Frank Church (D-ID) and Charles McMathias (R-MD) September 30, 1973

            Things have changed a bit since 1973…..maybe these E/O’s need to be looked at again???????

            Laurie. Wake up and educate yourself. You are no longer free. The Cato institute puts out a freedom index every year which loosely measures the freedom enjoyed by a country’s citizens…..this year 2015 USA = 20 HONG KONG = 1.

            I am so sick of stupid people begging the government….yes the TYRANNICAL government to take more of our rights away. If you are too stupid to value the freedom we once had in this country….think about what it is going to be like for your children. They will be living under total oppression….the 2nd amendment is the only freedom we have left…..

          • liberalssuck

            Funny, that has already been debunked as far as the school shootings go . Keep trying, something is bound to stick, some day.

          • Moses George

            I don’t know where you’re getting your information on gun prices, but an actual “automatic” weapon is not a couple thousand dollars, it also requires a class 3 to own which is also a very expensive and long process to go through. I’m fairly well off, but I can’t afford a class 3 let alone a fully automatic, which they don’t sell at Walmart BTW. So how do criminals keep getting their hands on automatics? Could it be because they’re breaking the law? AND if they’re getting weapons illegally right now, do you really think an Extra law is going to matter to them? Gun control only his law abiding citizens because we’re the only ones who follow the laws!

          • Nancy Roberts

            Laurie, you should just stop now before you are even further behind. Your “logic” is laughable, your facts not accurate and your narrow-mindedness is annoying. Soccer mom, i presume?

            And what is it with all of you people calling Dave an idiot because you don’t agree with what HE believes? I think he makes a lot of sense, actually. Enough so that i now am interested in checking it out.

            Oh and btw… “it’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.” -Mark Twain

        • liberalssuck

          So, to recap, gun ownership up, crime down, those are facts. Look you have an irrational fear of an inanimate object. That is your problem, not ours. You do not like guns, don’t get one. Now you have zero right to tell me or anyone else what we can not do.

    • cycledad

      How do you propose we do that genius? There’s 300,000,000 guns in the USA. Do you propose a door to door confiscation? Do you propose a voluntary hand over? Do you honestly believe the bad guys will just give up their guns too? Had a good guy with a gun been nearby and noticed this deranged lunatic pointing his weapon at innocent people, it could have stopped. Period. Then this story wouldn’t even be on the news. Since you’re throwing around facts…The fact is, gun ownership in Virginia has skyrocketed in the last 10 years. Thus, gun crimes have also plummeted. It may sound like a cliche, but the ONLY thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. Whether that’s a policeman, or law abiding citizen. That’s fact.

      http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/article_a9a3cd36-dc50-5192-9b97-e14258e6168a.html

      • Laurie Cestnick
        • liberalssuck

          Wow, the daily show, you really are stupid, it is a comedy show. This is why we consider liberals as mentally defective. Unable to actually distinguished, between reality and satire. Niw, the cdc has determined you are safer with a firearm, then v without. Again, crime has been dropping, gun ownership thru the roof.

      • Laurie Cestnick

        YOU DIDN’T READ: 35,000 deaths per year, 1/3 suicides, 1/3 accidents, 1/3 homicides ..couple HUNDRED self defense …what do YOU need a gun for? to kill yourself? your neighbor? ..it will not be used in self defense

        • Creepermoss

          Oddly enough, the ONLY time I’ve had to point my pistol at someone was in self defense. Had he continued his attack, my firearm wouldn’t have been used to kill me, or my neighbor, but the immediate threat to my safety.

          You should probably find a more Liberal Emotional-response-over-logic style site to post this type of fallacy on, where they will all mindlessly agree with you, rather than laugh at your wailings. When your ranting is as bad (and contains less rational thinking) as the conspiracy nut shouting about false flags, that should tell you something.

        • liberalssuck

          Nope, wrong again liberal. A lot of dgu a year. So let’s recap, The only way to stop a bad guy, is a good guy with a gun.

      • Laurie Cestnick

        I guess you didn’t read ..the FACTS are, out of 35,000 deaths in America ..only a few hundred were self-defense. Anyone can look up these facts at census.gov …so “no” ..a good guy has a very small chance of stopping a bad guy …and 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides and accidents.

        • liberalssuck

          Bull crap, close to half a million gdu a year. So nice try. Now again, gun ownership up. Crime down. That is facts.

        • John Smith

          by your logic – fertilizer was used in Oklahoma City Bombing killing 500 people so you would ban fertilizer. More than 50,000 people are killed by drunk drivers so you would ban booze & cars. Two planes on Sept 11th killed aprox 4,000 people so you would ban planes. 29 people were Killed in China by a man with a kitchen knife so you would ban knives. More than 300,000 people are killed by doctors (meds, surgery ect) so you would ban doctors. roughly 10,000 die by hanging so you would ban ropes. The list can go on for several hours. Stupid liberals don’t have a brain.

          • Laurie Cestnick

            Nope ..that would make me an idiot. Fertilizer was designed and is used for fertilizing ..cars were designed and are used for driving ..planes were designed and are used to fly ..the ratio of knife to gun deaths is so ludicrous I would never even make the comparison ..and guns were designed to KILL and are used to do so. Don’t come back and waste my time with brainless arguments.

          • John Smith

            you just said the only way to be killed is by a gun – that’s interesting. Did you graduate the 2nd grade?

          • Laurie Cestnick

            No only an illogical argumentative person would think that. Cars, fertilizer, planes, and many other things including balloons and pillows have functions ..they can inadvertently kill as anything could …guns do not have any other function other than to kill ..they do it well ..they do it best ..as that is what they were designed to do. I’m not wasting anymore words on you. It’s clear you only finished high school or never finished school and you must be aware of this ..so just take people’s word for it.

          • John Smith

            so there are more than 20,000 gun laws – how do you explain the illegal mexican (deport 5 times for felony convictions) who stole a gun from a police officer & killed a lady in San Fransico? Did the gun laws work? Dumbass http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/07/07/man-charged–san-franciso-waterfront-shooting—arraigned/29811735/

          • Laurie Cestnick

            If you read on historical gun laws and bans around the world such as Australia shared here, they have had 0 massacres in 20 years since the 1996 gun ban. Automatic weapons cost between $30,000 to $100,000 there now ..a steep price for any person to afford a gun (you did not need to make the racist “Mexican” comment ..but it does show your colors).

          • John Smith

            There’s a ban on herion which kills thousands of people – how’s that ban going?

      • Laurie Cestnick
      • liberalssuck

        Actually more like 315 million now. The only good thing we can say about ohomo. Best gun salesman, EVER… Mm an that has to make liberals heads explode, lmao.

    • John Boneske

      . Do you really think that the criminals/gang bangers are gonna just turn over their guns? Your an idiot for thinking that way! What a moron…

      Good luck taking my guns and ammo too…

    • John Boneske

      Australians and people in GB have guns… you cant be serious?

    • John Boneske

      more people are killed in this country each year than by guns… outlaw them too!

      • liberalssuck

        Cars, yes let’s ban them, or better yet, Doctors as they kill more folks then some diseases. So all Doctors are now banned.

    • Clint

      Do you happen to drive a Toyota Prius? Just thought I’d ask so I can understand you better. Here’s the thing, if we get rid of guns then the only people that will be able to get them are those that do so illegally…..which would be criminals. Just because you make something illegal does not mean that you cannot get it, it just means that law abiding citizens will not get it. All getting rid of guns would do is make criminals more daring and brave because they know no one is going to shoot back at them. If you want to rely on the government to protect you then that’s your prerogative. As for me, I will be protecting myself. Lets see who lives longer.

    • LvGordo

      Laurie, please come up with a way to get ALL the guns out there. Even if guns are illegal, they will not go away, there are too many and criminals don’t care. Come up with a well-thought out plan and people may listen.

      • liberalssuck

        Not going to happen. No liberal can think that deeply, only feel.

    • joe bloe

      there is a simple process to achieve what you want. get back to us when you have accomplished it. Until then, STFU.

    • Justin Conrow

      Laurie, your ignorance is painful. Excuse yourself, and leave.

    • liberalssuck

      You seem to think criminals will just give up their firearms. Typical liberal. Btw in UK, violent crimes are thru the roof. Funny in the UK, they want to ban knives now. Morons.. Btw gun ownership up. Crime has been dropping since 93. Those are facts.
      So please tell us how to remove guns from criminals or liberals that finally snapped and walked into a gun free zone to slaughter innocents?

      • Jonah

        Haha. Like murder never happened before guns were invented! You know what’s cheaper and more effective than a gun – draino! We should outlaw that as well. But then how would I clear my drain out? Or maybe we should outlaw hate and mental illness. And give a tax break for happiness, rainbows and puppies.

    • Moses George

      A gun is a tool, used correctness is a tool of immeasurable worth, used incorrectly is capable of inflicting immeasurable damage. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. If you think we should ban guns, or weapons of any sort you’re a fool. Imagine you’re a criminal in a gun free world, why does that stop you from using a gun or other weapon against law abiding citizens? You’re already breaking the law, what do you care? That’s why we carry.

    • Jonah

      Why get rid of the guns? So we could watch him beat her to death with a baseball bat? Maybe watch him slit her throat and gut her? Stab her a hundred times and watch her suffer? You think guns had something to do with this? This man stalked these people with the intention TO KILL THEM!! That gun probably eased their suffering quite a bit. What this is is a f-ing terrible, horrible, senseless tragedy. Guns are designed to kill but it’s a machine that requires an operator to use it. It guns aren’t always used for shit like this. Guns feed people. Guns protect people. But once in a while guns are used by whack jobs to kill people.

    • ShiningKnight

      You are sadly misinformed.

    • Connie Criscitello

      Most Americans are so dumbed down today they don’t know anything about our rights, what is good for society and what is bad for us as individuals. Most people never read and their beliefs and values are being socially engineered by the 6 mega corporations that control 90% of ALL MEDIA. That means 90% of everything you hear, listen to or read is tightly controlled by about 6 CEO’s. The so called news outlets are working for them, so they only report what serves their masters best….THEY DON”T CARE ABOUT YOU. They get you all upset about politically correct issues because in the end it’s what helps them promote the NWO and keeps us fighting and divided….just how they like it. Most people are begging to have their rights taken away from them. The social engineering provided by the mass media has been very effective. People are so dumb….I can’t even believe it sometimes. BTW…we already are living under facisim. People yell and scream about Cecil the lion while Congress is passing laws that strip them of all of their constitutional rights. (see NDAA: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, Pub.L. 112–81. This NDAA contains several controversial sections (see article), the chief being §§ 1021-1022, which affirm provisions authorizing the indefinite military detention of civilians, including U.S. citizens, without habeas corpus or due process, contained in the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub.L. 107–40.[6]

    • John Smith

      Gun bans have worked in Australia? What facts do you have? According to the Australian Gov, Armed Robbery (with guns) are up 300% since the gun ban. In 2002 — five years after enacting its gun ban — the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent). Even Australia’s Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime

      • Laurie Cestnick

        OMG ..I’m done with this conversation. BTW ..this is what the world thinks of your views and party ..you should broaden your circle of friends, travel more, and listen to facts around the world and then you wouldn’t be questioning these things. Here’s a good place to start: http://www.vice.com/read/what-the-rest-of-the-world-thinks-about-the-republican-party-622

      • Laurie Cestnick

        you obviously have not listened to or watched one video that I posted ..for out of the prime minister’s mouth himself he discussed the gun massacre and death statistics since the gun ban …you should start listening/watching more and talking less. Not out of the horses mouths ( you were given that and didn’t read or watch) ..but here is a summary as of yesterday since intelligent Americans are pissed over gun nonsense in this country ..and BTW Alison Parker was my paddling friend. HERE: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

  • Jonah

    can anyone see shells ejecting from the gun?

    • ron

      considering a shell ejects at hundreds of miles per hr and can fly up to 15 feet away…on a shaking cam, no you cant

      • Gabriel

        haha.. Sorry, a shell doesn’t eject at hundreds of miles per hour, especially from a Glock. hahaha.

  • Shawn

    Looks like he missed with the first shot, you can see a black mark appear on the wood right after it happens. The woman could turn around and run because he couldn’t aim a gun and his camera phone at the same time, not because of some fake shooting conspiracy.

    • ShiningKnight

      No he did not miss the first shot. The first round struck her center chest next to her left breast. Watch the news cameraman footage closely. You will see it.

      • Jonah

        Oh yeah. Slow that down and you can see the penetration, the movement of clothing. You can see her wince. So close to the heart. She didn’t have a chance.

        • ShiningKnight

          You’re absolutely right….she didn’t have a chance. I was able to grab an HD copy from early on and watched it in slo-mo. Poor girl. RIP

  • Ip Knightly

    there are many other ways to kill people other than guns.

    knives, hammers, steel pipes, grenades, a moving car, and on and on and on.

    why don’t we ban anything and everything that can be used to kill someone.

    get real you idiots.

    • ziyourokcs

      Autism hes taken over him, its too late for salvation. RIP in autism my friend

    • Smariel

      By your logic, our armed forces just need knives to win wars? Get real idiot.

      • Connie Criscitello

        by your logic it would be difficult to go to a gun show and not get shot.

        • liberalssuck

          Sorry I misread your comments. My apologies.

        • Guest

          Sweet!

      • liberalssuck

        Funny, he is right, if someone is going to kill , they will. Nothing can be done to prevent it.

        • Disagree.

          • liberalssuck

            Whelp, we have a lot of examples, UK. Australia, and China. Not to mention examples here. So you can disagree , but humans will kill with anything at hand and for a bunch of stupid reasons. So, yea.

  • Peter

    People in the US are just killing one another, at least in other countries there are full fledged wars, in the US people have access to weapons,its like walk into a gun show and you get a weapon and thank you come back soon, appalling! Someone can walk up to you & will kill you just because, fucked up and so third world. Ironic shit, you just can’t make this stuff up. Everyone needs to stand their ground…

    • liberalssuck

      Sorry, that is complete crap. Gun ownership up, crime is down. Btw in other countries folks are killed by other objects. You fail to realize how violent the human animal is.

      • Peter

        Crap is murdering an unarmed man, woman or child. Crap is giving anybody a gun without the authorities doing a psychological evaluation, doing a thorough background check. I agree it is a jungle out there but it can’t be a free for all because many innocent people are dying by people who think they can shoot anyone because “its their right”.

        • liberalssuck

          Sorry, your liberal views do not fit the facts. Crime is down, gun ownership up. Those are facts. Yes I have every right to own firearms. You do not like guns because of a irrational fear, do not get one..
          What you and others can not grasp, he was going to kill regardless.

          • Peter

            Those are your facts, and Im glad you can bear arms I hope you never kill an innocent person. God bless,

          • liberalssuck

            No, those are fbi facts. If I need to link them, I will be glad To. Now unlike liberals, if I have to use my firearm, it will be in defence of myself or my family. You see unlike liberals I do not get mad and want to kill anybody. Those are facts too.
            We understand why liberals do not want to address mental health. Liberalism is a mental disorder, my proof the liberal , one of many, that went and slaughtered innocents again. Those are facts too.

          • Peter

            I think you’re having a nervous breakdown… No one here is a liberal so compose yourself, remember you have a gun.

          • liberalssuck

            Lmao, as a typical liberal, facts hurt you, lmao. So I give facts and like a typical liberal, you project your own psychosis on to me, roflmao. Look seek help and let us know who you are so we can get you help. I just hope to god there is no gun free zones near you. God bless and I hope you get the help you need. I will be praying for the safety of others around you.

    • ShiningKnight

      Mind your business.

      • Peter

        Yeah keep killing innocent people and then turn around and tell other countries how to live their lives, so full of shit.

        • ShiningKnight

          I didn’t kill any innocent people. A sick, mentally ill degenerate killed two innocent people. I’m fucking sick of you foreigners acting like you have some sort of bearing on our politics. I’m talking about people like you and Piers Morgan. If you’re not a US citizen, mind you fucking business…….your opinion doesn’t matter.

          • Peter

            I’m not a foreigner I’m a US citizen. You all need to push for laws that demand whoever wants a gun needs to go through a more thorough psychiatric evaluation and a wider background check. There is too much hate in the air…

  • BondSan

    Unless you get shot in the spine, head, or knees… you’re going to run when you hear the gun shots. This guy probably missed the first two shots and only hit her after the camera was not showing anymore. You can see the glock wildly kicking about as he shoots. First few shots did not connect, even at that range and that is extremely common in tense situations. This guy was full of anger, hate, anxiety… even though no one was pressuring him at the time his nerves were through the roof, and probably had some meds on board too. This isn’t the shooting range where you put your ear plugs in, pull your glasses down, plant your feet, and aim at the target with both hands. He’s holding a phone in one hand and shooting with the other. It’s real, yes the people died and they mostly got hit after the camera went down and he used both hands to steady his aim. Always use two hands, you will invariably miss in an tense situation when using only one hand.

    • Dixon

      That is a possibility. But it can raise some questions. It does look odd.

    • Monkeywench

      Really? When you have to wildly rationalize what you don’t see before your very eyes, perhaps it is time to re-evaluate? How does he miss from 5 feet away? Why is the camera man not filming them until the shooting starts? Why doesn’t the person being interviewed notice the big man with the gun walk up? Why are there only three people there besides the gunman and who let him in? How did he know where they were going to be filming? Autopsy states both victims died from gunshot wounds to the head. Did you see any? Why doesn’t the cameraman react when the shooter fires? And finally, why is it a white hand inside a blue plaid shirt? The gunman was wearing black.

      • BondSan

        Well monkey, its seems that all the latest news is saying the same thing only 24 hours after I said it. The coroner agrees that most shots were missed and there were only shots to the chest and head and they were done after the video sequence. Hey, turn off the computer and go for a walk around your block. Take a break.

        • Monkeywench

          Of course the coroner’s report agrees. Would you think it wouldn’t? Considering a body was never brought in, what would it say? Rewatch the video and then attempt to explain why the shooter’s hand is white, wearing a blue plaid shirt.

          • Robert Racye

            Shhh…you are an idiot. Go back to talking about how we never landed on the moon or that the earth is flat or something. Your stupidity and ignorance knows no bounds.

          • Monkeywench

            Where does the moon landing come into this story? So, if you cannot counter with facts, I guess name calling comes into play? Have a nice day and sleep well.

        • Guest

          Is the coroner an independent entity? No. HE will say what he is told to.

        • where are the shell casings, only need to see one…there are ZERO…

      • George

        Exactly! Why is the gunman’s hand white? There’s enough time on the video to notice that!

        • Monkeywench

          And no shadows from from the supposed bright lights. Where are they? The gunman walks up a walkway with rails on both sides for at least 15 feet. No lights, no shadows. Not from the reporters or the gunman. Also, the reporters camera shot shows a black man in black clothing. Are we supposed to believe the killer changed his wardrobe along with his skin color during the shooting?

          • RyuSanSama Sanchez

            no, you’re eyes are just shit buddy his hand isn’t white and you’re viewing from two different camera’s entirely. educate yourself on video recording tech then watch the video again and you’ll see some anger management fuck killed two people probably almost for nothing. this kind of disgusting shit just happens what are you even trying to say? fucking conspiracy theorists…

          • Monkeywench

            Whatever. One cannot awaken one who chooses to sleep.

      • gingercake5

        The guy had to be be firing blanks.

    • If you still think it real, slow the video down and explain why there are no shell casings being ejected. It’s a stage prop. The slide on the fake firearm doesn’t move, and it isn’t a space gun.

      • BondSan

        I’m sure next you will say it was all green screen? At what speed are shell casings ejected? At that close of a distance and at 24p, you won’t see the shell casings being ejected. It was shot on a cell phone, wobbly phone, wobbly kicking gun and framed in tight. Uploaded at 24p and you expect to see shell casings? Go watch Saving Private Ryan and enjoy the slow-mo shell casings… THAT is not real, THIS is.

        • A REAL WEAPON WOULD EJECT SHELL CASINGS, UNLESS IT JAMMED, WHICH IT DIDN’T. YOUR BLIND. EVEN FILMED WITH A CELL IT WOULD BE SEEN. PLENTY OF THOSE VIDS AVAILABLE TO WATCH AND COMPARE. EVEN IF YOU HAD STOOD THERE AND WITNESSED IT LIVE YOU’D STILL BELIEVE IT WAS REAL.

          • BondSan

            So are you saying the whole thing was fake? Please explain why and how. I’d love to hear this…

          • For you, it’s all real, fake gun, fake bullets. If you can accept that, then God Speed to you.

          • BondSan

            Judging from your thought process, I’d say you have a racial element vested in this conversation. For that, I give you a pass, as does the rest of society. Best of luck. EOD.

        • I don’t have any crayons to better explain this to you. My apologies. It’s all real, watch CNN and the rest of the media. They can teach you further in these things.

          • BondSan

            Judging from your thought process, I’d say you have a racial element vested in this conversation. For that, I give you a pass, as does the rest of society. Best of luck. EOD.

          • DutchMaster Reloaded

            lol. you actually trust the US media? CNN? I feel bad for you…
            zionist media is owned by hollywood. they support israel, extreme racism and the killing of Palestinian civilians. I guess you prolly do too. anyway, run back to your CNN and let the mind programming continue. whatever you do, do NOT think critically. thats illegal in the US. clearly the agenda is to take guns away, and now mental health is their new avenue. the crisis actors truly are the worst actors i have ever seen. but americans are too stupid to notice the difference. sad story.

          • Apparently, you also don’t get sarcasm.

    • bob

      good thinking but wrong. autopsy says she was hit in the chest and the head not the back.

    • Bob saget

      100% hit in chest on first shot

  • liberalssuck

    So what was the reason for this heinous act?

  • Moses George

    He clearly went there to kill. This is the one time I don’t think a concealed carry would have done any good, it was too fast for anyone to react, and I do believe that the shooter was clearly there to kill. It looked like a rather empty area, which might have been why the doer chose it, and being that I understand he was a former newscaster himself he probably understood the reporters mind set of, I’m doing my job, I need to focus on my interviewee. This is all speculation of course… While studying Krav Maga my instructor Paul Evans made an excellent point, if someone has set out to kill you, you’re dead, regardless of preparation or training. Situational awareness would have helped, maybe, but I think the shooter would have just acted sooner if they noticed him. Hate is a strong word, but I HATE the person who committed this terrible act. To me, this just goes to show that guns don’t kill people, people kill people…

    Thoughts and prayers to those who lost their lives (minus the shooter) and their loved ones…

    It’s a sad day to be a gun owner…

    • Bam4891

      Thank you. Finally a rational comment. I agree, even if they became aware of him before he started shooting, I don’t think the situation would have turned out any different. They had no chance. It is highly unlikely he would have been able to be talked out of it. And they likely would have started running away and then he would have opened fire. I hate this guy too. 27 and 24 years old, smh. It’s just so sad.

    • liberalssuck

      As a gun owner, we do not have to be ashamed. You stated it perfectly, people kill people, and if he didn’t have a gun, he would have used something else.

      • I wonder, where did captain deranged rainbow acquire his firearm? Was he on psych meds…

        • liberalssuck

          You know, all I heard was he had the back ground and waited the lawful waiting period. I would bet he was on Prozac or another.

  • Bam4891

    He wasn’t waving his gun. Why do people keep saying that? He walks up behind the camera man and to the side of the reporter who is focused on her interviewee as she should be. He is holding his gun up, not waving it around like a F-ing sparkler. Even if they noticed him before he started shooting, what the hell were they supposed to do? They had no chance with this lunatic. I highly doubt they could have talked him out of it and if they started running he would have started shooting. Can’t believe some of the comments on this page. Two people are dead and one injured for NOTHING. Such young life lost. An absolutely tragedy. How about condolences and sympathy for all involved? Instead of ranting and raving over stupid crap on here.

  • Lee

    The argument could go on forever but the truth is neither will know for sure if she is dead or not, unless you see and identify the body yourself. Same goes for all conspiracy theories, history, or anything we read or see on the news. We don’t ever truly know anything is fact unless we have personally experienced it. So basically you wasn’t there, so stop going on like you know what happened, why it happened, and that you have all the answers…. you don’t… you have only theory and/or interpretation based on a small amount of evidence… which is likely censored.

    • Bam4891

      You’re right. I only believe these two young people were killed because that is what I was told. But I don’t need to see their corpses to actually confirm they died. There is absolutely no logic behind this idea of the killings being a conspiracy. It’s lunacy and was only brought up on this page because people are morons.

  • Dave

    Here guys, watch Attorney General Eric Holder tell us we all need to be brainwashed to think about guns differently. Then go read up on the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 and how it allows the government to disseminate propaganda domestically to INFLUENCE PUBLIC OPINION. Then ask yourself why we keep seeing these shootings all with the same fucking narrative. It’s time to stop being idiots and wake up to what is going on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0

    • Jonah

      Dave. I don’t doubt that holder wants more gun control. But that has nothing to do with what happened today. It’s not that everyone is blind and you can see clearly. It’s more like you’re seeing what you want to see and everyone else saw a tragic shooting by a mad man. You’re not going to convince anyone that this was a liberal conspiracy. These people aren’t laughing this off over drinks somewhere warm. They. Are. All. Dead.

      • Dave

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-gun-control_55ddfdffe4b04ae497056c70?kvcommref=mostpopular

        They want to get this race war going and these shootings are not going to stop as long as we keep buying into their bullshit.

        • Jonah

          I’m done with you Dave. Seriously, you’re just as whacked out as the shooter. You’re paranoid. Don’t act on it. That said, it should be no surprise the Dems want gun control. They always want gun control. They don’t need to stage a video to further their agenda. There are gang bangers killing each other and innocent people at record rates in Chicago. A city with tight control laws. You’re a f***ing idiot and I’m ashamed of you as a human being. This is too tragic to drag in the gutter.

          • Dave

            Well I didn’t ask for your opinion anyway so fuck off buddy. And the fact that Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws AND has higher gun crime rates should tell you something…

          • Jonah

            I know I said I was done and I will duck off because I think you are unstable. Seriously. I don’t want to get shot. But I want you to chew on this. If this was a political set up why would they use a gay black guy who is an avid Obama supporter (it’s documented he wasn’t ashamed of it) who is very likely a liberal among liberals. A guy who saw racism everywhere? You know the type. If I offended you… I’m sorry. Sorry you got offended instead of listening to what the non paranoid grown ups are trying to tell you. Whack job.

          • Jonah

            Tells me that the gun laws don’t work. And I apologize for losing my temper. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But you’re still wrong. Why would the administration is a gay, black, outspoken Obama supporter as the fake shooter? That just doesn’t make sense. You think the shooting happened so the Dems can push their agenda. But really the Dems are pushing their agenda because of the shooting. If anything I think this proves that Liberals, despite their rhetoric, will pick up a gun to do harm just as fast as any other whack job who is intent on doing harm.

  • Jim Morrison

    Just to add my 50 cents worth. Explain to me how those of you who seem to think this was fake because she didn’t immiately drop explain how 50cent got shot 9 times and still lived? I can… Fight or flight… I have seen some pretty grotesque shit that was a hell of alot gorery than this and it still took awhile for the victims to die… This isn’t a video game kids and not everything is a conspiracy. I’ll post a link to my comment above http://www.bestshockers.com/chainsaw-beheading/ WARNING!! THIS VIDEO IS VERY GRAPHIC!!!. This is the real deal kiddos. I had friend show me this and I really wish I hadn’t seen it.. BTW I sincerly appologise if in any way this adds insult to injury. But in this case someone needs to set it straight that in the heat of the moment A Person Does not JUST DROP AND DIE! Especially from a small caliber gun. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the shooter was high on spice..

    • liberalssuck

      There are literally hundreds of video’s showing stuff like this.

  • Jim K.

    I’ve been an NRA Instructor for over 25 years and I’m a former US Army Infantry Captain. If you’ll look at the line between the muzzle and the victim, I’m pretty certain the victim was struck with the first several rounds along the lower torso. The first shots are usually the most accurate and as others have noted the flight or fight reflect is an extremely powerful dump of adrenalin and dopamine into the bloodstream that would carry her a fair distance until the shock set in and she collapsed. Situational Awareness was totally not present. SO sad. Had the cameraman been just slightly aware he could have clobbered the shooter using the camera itself.

    • Jonah

      Thank you Jim. I’m glad we got someone with actual experience to weigh in. Now we can stop looking for a conspiracy and just accept that something horrible happened today. Something tragic that shouldn’t have happened. It’s not about guns or conspiracies. It’s about a maniac taking the lives of three innocent people in cold blood. It breaks my heart to tell you the truth.

    • liberalssuck

      Yup. Spot on Capt. Unless he hit and shattered the pelvic bone, she would have be able to run. Some folks do not understand it. Thank you for your service..

    • ShiningKnight

      AMEN!! I’m glad someone else out there thinks along the same lines as I do.

  • Ian Shreve

    How else do you get people to believe in a new ideal? **cough**gun safety**cough** Paint a picture and show the illiterates and go on crusade. I see this showing up in some politics here shortly. Looks very fake. Shot my first gun when I was 5.

  • Really he wanted to shoot her in the head in the video when he first walked up the the camera guy turned around so if he would have shot her then it wouldn’t have been seen only heard and he wanted people to see it but if he would came closer the camera guy would have seen him,,, i don’t know the older lady didnt see him the first time tho

  • Connie Criscitello

    To all the gun control people. You don’t understand that the 2nd amendment is the last bit of freedom you have left and you are begging the gov’t to take that from you as well. STUPID. Unless you are enjoying the regime we are currently living in….it’s no longer a conspiracy thing. Your freedom is gone. It wasn’t a birthrite and since no one saw fit to fight for it, it mostly has been taken from you and you are so uninformed you don’t even know it. Here’s the cold hard VERIFIABLE FACTS: (and there are many more).

    you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are already living under a fascist government. The gov’t can break your door down, without a warrant, lock you up….for as long as they want if they deem you a threat. (one thing among many they list as a threat is someone missing a finger). SEE: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, Pub.L. 112–81. This NDAA contains several controversial sections (see article), the chief being §§ 1021-1022, which affirm provisions authorizing the indefinite military detention of civilians, including U.S. citizens, without habeas corpus or due process, contained in the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub.L. 107–40.[6]

    DUE TO EXECUTIVE ORDERS right now, and I quote:

    “The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all menas of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all Americans…

    Most [of these laws] remain a a potential source of virtually unlimited power for a President should he choose to activate them. It is possible that some future President could exercise this vast authority in an attempt to place the United States under authoritarian rule.

    While the danger of a dictatorship arising through legal means may seem remote to us today, recent history records Hitler seizing control through the use of the emergency powers provisions contained in the laws of the Weimar Republic.”

    –Joint Statement, Sens. Frank Church (D-ID) and Charles McMathias (R-MD) September 30, 1973

    Things have changed a bit since 1973…..maybe these E/O’s need to be looked at again???????

    Wake up and educate yourself. You are no longer free. The Cato institute puts out a freedom index every year which loosely measures the freedom enjoyed by a country’s citizens…..this year 2015 USA = 20 HONG KONG = 1.

    I am so sick of stupid people begging the government….yes the TYRANNICAL government to take more of our rights away. If you are too stupid to value the freedom we once had in this country….think about what it is going to be like for your children. They will be living under total oppression….the 2nd amendment is the only freedom we have left…..

    • Nigel Jones

      Sorry, but how does carrying a gun change ANYTHING you have just mentioned? I suppose you could shoot the president… If carrying a gun is the only thing that makes you feel ‘free’ then maybe you should take a closer look at yourself.

      • Connie Criscitello

        I don’t even own a gun. But I don’t want any more of my rights taken away. The government is bloated and out-of-control and the media puts out nothing but lies. Unless people on vigilant about these things, they are more than likely brain-washed, numbed out zombies….just what the government and Walmart want you to be. Saying guns cause death, is just a lazy unintelligent argument. It’s what the gov’t want you to believe. The gov’t is just itching to repeal the entire constitution and replace it with a more oppressive fascist version (there actually is a new version already written, which you can google). I believe the constitution as it is written now is one of the most brilliantly written documents in the world….it does not need to be revised because it addresses our rights as being endowed by our creator. One other thing I would ask you consider is the fact that we deny our children in American culture the right to live without fear of being assaulted by their parents. Hitting children is illegal in over 40 countries. America has laws against assaulting any other member of our society….however, most American’s find it perfectly acceptable to assault the littlest, most dependent members of our population…..this is where the true insanity lies, and too, the roots of all violence.

  • canamm

    Listen people, stop trying to argue with Dave. He obviously hasn’t got a brain and you can’t fix stupid.

  • Ericinsd

    “Dave” Is either:
    A. a total sociopath/psychopath capable of doing this himself
    B. a total idiot totally unaware of his surroundings
    C. A sociopath that thrives on being controversial, probably in category A
    D. An instigator of terrorism hoping that his own conspiracy theories will spread terror.

    Any way you look at it he is an ASSHOLE AND an IDIOT. Two tags that are usually mutually exclusive

  • Trailing Tubesteak Leviathan

    When I read “VA,” I thought maybe it was one of the 238,000 disabled veterans denied the same medical protection given to Hasan and The Aurora Killer, and made his point by emptying a clip into one of those responsible at the Veteran’s Administration.

    If Gacy, Hasan, Manson, or the Aurora Killer died begging a prison hospital for help, everyone involved would be fired, sued, and criminally prosecuted. Disabled veterans are CONSTANTLY dying the same way, and the VA is given immunity from local authorities and their own police force.

    Every disabled veteran in the United States deserve an answer to this question by our so-called “Leaders”:

    Why are those of us who have been wounded protecting this country NOT given the same medical protection as cannibals who eat kids, terrorists who shoot our pregnant soldiers on our own Army base, and thrill-killers who gun down children in movie theaters?

    WE DESERVE AN ANSWER:

    WHY?

  • Mark Ward

    I don’t know guys, with operation jade helm gonna kick in high gear next month on and their gonna turn on the machine to open a portal to hell next month on the 23 and with all the walmart holding pens and bunkers being built underground for the elite when the riots break out and total anarchy rules , yes I can see why the gov would fake a video like this to get more guns off the streets. Hell they staged 911 they staged the moon landings they staged many notorious events like this for an agenda just for the Rockefeller types. Its all about letting the little people live pay check to pay check and then they gonna shut us down by closing all the supermarkets and jack the price of food sky high. Seed banks my ass Bill Gates we know what you guys are preparing for your trying to wipe us out so their will be a lot less people on this planet and you elites can live in your quote Utopia with your type. Yes I vote fake on this. Girl would have been blown to the ground about 5 feet away on the first shot adrenaline rush or not just the force of the impact would have lifted her off the ground and thrown her down and I didn’t see no splatter going frame by frame no flesh being blown out on the exit wound or nothing where is the blood?

    • Moses George

      Wow… one to many movies methinks… she would have been blown to the ground 5 feet away? Blood spatter and flesh flying? That’s all Hollywood hokum. The reality is you have a piece of led 1/4 to 1/2 inch in diameter flying at supersonic speeds, if you knew anything about physics you’d know that while it has a lot of kinetic energy it has very little surface area with which to transfer said force, so instead it just punches a hole straight through, so not this huge traumatic incident.

      Please educate yourself

  • Matt John

    It’s mind boggling that the USA will watch this video and even hint at a suggestion that conceal and carry would have helped the situation. The conceal and carry premise is HOW this guy got his gun in the first place! Legally!!!
    You seriously need to CHANGE YOUR LAWS! How many more pre-school children need to die in horrific massacres!
    Your love of guns and your cocky attitude regarding them is embarrassing!!!! Please smarten up.
    The USA has so much to offer the world and the world can learn so much from you but this is just insane!!

    • Moses George

      How does taking guns from good law abiding citizens stop something like this? This man, though I hesitate to call him that, at out south ONE goal, and that was to end the lives of the 2 victims. You don’t need a gun to kill somebody

      • Nigel Jones

        In the same way that 99% of people could take drugs and have a jolly old time. But the other 1% goes out and jumps off a building and ruins it for everybody. Or how most of us could drive safely at any speed we deem necessary, but guess what….. One asshole will drive too fast and kill a kid! Yes most people can be responsible but, if the law is too relaxed then idiots go out and do something like this. Hell, why not just legalise everything and let people get on with life….Crack, Rape, Child abuse……. I’m sure most of us would be responsible….

  • Bruce Crossan

    I’m trying to figure out how neither of the women noticed him first walk up and aimed the gun for a good 7 seconds. He clearly wanted to make sure the shooting was caught on the camera… thats why he lowered the gun and waited for the cameraman to turn and bring them into the camera view before raising the gun and firing once he knew they were on air. But with the way both of them were facing on a slight angle, you would have thought they would notice in their peripheral vision.

  • guessman

    I can’t understand how this guy was invisible to everyone.

  • klepp0906

    I’m amazed that nobody saw a guy holding a gun pointed straight at them from that range for that long.

    The people that didn’t see this are the same people running into and killing people on motorcycles.

    Regret is a bitch.

    Was a sick sob that’s for sure. Imagine how delusional a white person has to be to kill two of their own and tweet black lives matter? Wut?! Rofl.

  • Satyameva Jayate

    She too should have carried a gun. Tomorrow when a mofo lunatic like this one carried an RPG..his victims should have carried an RPG too….if there is a clique of lunatic sitting far away with tanks…the journalists should dress up like megatron from transformer. BUT WE NEED GUNS! More guns. Now a smart ass will say what about cars…people can die from car crashes…Do you know of a car that can crash into you from 20 feet and still be capable of crashing into a few others at some other location? NONE. But guns can do that. Also, do you think cars have any other utility?! F’YESS….now ask the same for guns..unless you love to shove the barrel up your. Ladies and gentlemen – The great U.S of A!

  • John Smith

    What Concealed Nation forgot to mention was the fact that where the gunman was standing was behind a huge powerful spot light used during a live broadcast. Try looking into the sun – it’s that strong. You wonder why they couldn’t see the gunman – that’s why. Now how in the hell is situational awareness going to help? it won’t in this case. The gunman was a reporter so he knew the light would be there and to stand behind it as a shield so no one could see him.

    • Monkeywench

      Do you see light cast on these people? Looks like natural light to me. Where are the shadows from the bright light?

      • John Smith

        if you work in the industry you would know this – it’s common practice. However, if you read any news article it’s mentioned as to why he could sneek up on them – example: “The woman who survived the on-air shooting that killed two TV journalists says she never saw the gunman walk up to the group because the camera’s bright light blinded her.” read more: http://www.newser.com/article/1ba49cc7cc5d408ca8350473dd5abcdf/a-bright-light-questions-and-gunfire-survivor-recounts-the-on-air-shooting-that-killed-2.html

        • Monkeywench

          If they had bright lights on them, wouldn’t they then cast a shadow? I see no shadows. The gunman clearly walks up the wooden walkway with rails on both sides for at least 15ft. and never casts a shadow nor are any lights to be seen. Look at the lighting. Does it not appear to be natural morning light? Look where they are standing and what is around them. Where were the bright lights? There are none. Yet no one else saw him approach. And finally, was it the bright light that turned the gunman’s shirt from black to blue plaid? LOOK at the video. It is an absolute fake. High school kids could have done a better job. At least some ketchup would have been involved. We are all so brainwashed into thinking what the media shows us is real we refuse to admit what we don’t see with our own eyes.

  • Monkeywench

    Warning! Your government is staging killings to take away your guns! Come on people! Does anything in this “Graphic!” video make sense? Why is the hand holding the gun white and the shirt blue plaid when the gunman was black and wearing black? Just one of the many inconvenient truths.

    • A. Mccormick

      fool.

      • Monkeywench

        Says the sheep to the sheep dog.

  • Guest

    Hmm.. This is a tragedy. But a bigger tragedy is going to happen, somewhere in the future. They will use this one as all the other tragedies like this to push the gun control agenda. This is a classic “Overton’s window” exercise. If they want it, they will do it. Be sure about that: they will do it with or without your help. Wait and see. As the last bush president said: the Constitution and it’s amendments is nothing but a piece of paper…

  • Zach Hampton

    This whole incident is clearly fake. They’ve already taken the original gunman view video down and edited it so you can’t see Miss Parker look right at the shooter when he first walks up. It’s clear as day. And good job finding washed up actors to play Bf and father Jesus Christ I could do a better job selling this shit than them for God sakes they’re getting sloppy

  • Svengalis

    iim no conspiracy buff but the second shot of the hand does look like a white mans hand.

  • bobfairlane

    Quit promoting this hoax. It has been shown already how they are crisis actors, and how the “shooter’s” footage doesn’t match the other camera footage, given away by the reporter nodding in one of the videos before the “shot”, but not the other.

  • VChristine

    http://the-parallel-universe.com/the-virginia-shooter-is-black-the-hands-in-the-video-are-white/

    The shooter was not the man they said did the shooting. The proof is in the hands.

  • bob k

    The shooting is fake. You don’t get hit point blank in the chest (phony autopsy) and the head, then turn run away like a deer- no blood. First shot knocks you off your feet! Brainwashing!