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To The Guy In Front Of Me At The Grocery Store: Stop Fingering Your Gun, Especially In Public

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In the land of just an estimated 15,000 concealed carry permits, it’s not easy to find a fellow concealed carrier in New York.

Unless they’re playing with their gun like crazy in line at the grocery store.

Wearing shorts, a white t-shirt and flip flops, this guy’s #1 concern was whether his firearm was showing or not. He literally could not stop messing with it.

His hands went up on his hips, then he slowly moves his right hand over his firearm and holster, ‘fingering’ around to make sure it’s still there and to make sure it’s not showing.

Even if I didn’t know what he was doing, I’d sure be interested in what he was doing.

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Dude Needs A Mirror

This guy needs to give himself a good look in the mirror once he’s ready to go out. Move around, buddy. Does your firearm get exposed during normal movements? If so, it’s time for a wardrobe re-think. Or maybe a smaller gun.

The reason I’m giving this guy such a hard time is this: while it’s not the end of the world if we’re caught fidgeting with our firearm once in a while out in public, there’s a limit. If you’re paying that much attention to your firearm because you think something is wrong with it, you should probably get to a bathroom or other non-public place that will allow you to check things out.

After all, we carry concealed and for most of us, we do so because we don’t want people knowing that we are carrying a firearm.

Stop touching it, man. If you have a proper holster and belt, it’s not going anywhere.

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About Brandon Curtis | View all posts by Brandon Curtis

Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady…

Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady 165 gr FTX Critical Defense rounds, and rides comfortably in an Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 3.0 holster.

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  • Rob Pierce

    Could be considered brandishing. Got to keep your hands off it.

    • Michael R

      No it can’t.

      Please read the definition of brandishing before offering advice on the subject.

      • Rob Pierce

        If I put my hand on my hip and say something like if you don’t do this it could get real messy in here, would that not constitute brandishing

        • Michael R

          It would not.

          Please read what brandishing is.

          • Rob Pierce

            The current precedent in Michigan, set when Jennifer Granholm was Attorney General in 2002, is very similar:

            “To wave or flourish menacingly as a weapon; to display ostentatiously; a menacing or defiant wave or flourish.”

            What’s receiving more scrutiny these days is this business of using “ostentatious display” as a form of intimidation — a not-so-subtle form of threat. Under the new definition, a weapon that remains holstered could potentially fall into the category of being brandished based on the behavior of the individual.

          • Michael R

            Again. That’s not brandishing.

            Sight a precedent

          • Rob Pierce

            I just did.

          • Michael R

            A president is an actual court case.

            You sighted an article that speculates.

          • Rob Pierce

            Is this a court of law, this is a few guys talking in general. Brandishing in Michigan constitutes any form of intimidation where a firearm is involved. Regardless if the gun is out or not. You are arguing like a woman.

          • Michael R

            So what you’re saying is you’re talking out your ass. Have no legal reference to the actions you described, and are arguing for the sake of arguing.

          • Rob Pierce

            I just sited an example where the state of Michigan defined brandishing a weapon.

          • Michael R

            And no where in there is adjusting your holster brandishing.

            Just put down the shovel.

          • Rob Pierce

            If you are in some heated discussion and fidgeting with your weapon, it could be defined as brandishing.

          • Michael R

            Unless you have a court president to base this off of, you’re wrong.

          • Rob Pierce

            Well it seems you just exposed your vagina. Please close your cunt so the world can’t be exposed to it.

          • King Aurthur

            Seems you have gotten a bit off your original topic, but…

            “Brandished” with reference to a dangerous weapon (including a firearm) means that all or part of the weapon was displayed, or the presence of the weapon was otherwise made known to another person, in order to intimidate that person, regardless of whether the weapon was directly visible to that person. Accordingly, although the dangerous weapon does not have to be directly visible, the weapon must be present.

            From US Sentencing Commission Guidelines Manual. Not sure exactly how his holds up legally, but enjoy arguing about it!

          • Rob Pierce

            So let’s say you go to a bank and say I have a gun in my pocket. But don’t have the gun can still get you for brandishing

          • King Aurthur

            Strictly going by the definition I supplied (although I admittedly don’t know how authoritative the USSC is), I think you would still come up short on the “in order to intimidate” portion.

            For the second scenario you just mentioned, no. I believe that the requirement for weapon to be present would not be met. (Sorry, it took a few read-throughs to understand what you were saying. Punctuation would help.)

          • clay

            NO THEY CANNOT. They can “get” you for a threat, or possibly some other charge. If your weapon is NOT exposed you can’t be charged with brandishing.

          • Rob Pierce

            So I agree with your point, so let’s say I’m standing in line arguing with some store about a gift card. I say to the clerk give that gift card. Or else, during the same time. My hand is fidgeting with my holster gun. Am I brandishing

          • King Aurthur

            Well now you’ve reframed the argument to a completely different set of circumstances. Once again, I’m having trouble understanding your scenario due to a lack of punctuation. If I read your comment correctly, it sounds like you make some sort of veiled threat, “Give me that gift card, or else…” while simultaneously exposing the fact that you have a weapon, then potentially, yes, but you would probably need a little more context.

            But I feel like your grasping at straws here. In the original article, there is no mention of intimidating or threatening action. Simply fiddling with it wouldn’t meet the qualifications to be considered brandishing. What it boils down to is that there are other requirements that must be met. Poor discipline? Yes. Brandishing? No.

          • Rob Pierce

            Anytime you are fidgeting with your gun, people could perceive your other action as intimidating. Once you have been accused now it could be considered brandishing by a police office.

          • King Aurthur

            Good luck trying to get that charge to stick. Without the motive of intimidation, simply checking or adjusting your gun or holster isn’t brandishing.

          • Hayes

            Hey he’s state three times in he’s state just making a action accounts. I’m my state just having it counts whater you use it or not. Like taking it off and put in the glove box to go in a bank if seen counts. I been throw it so much know.

          • King Aurthur

            …….are you just typing words or is there some sort of point you’re trying to pull together?

            Best I can tell, you’re maybe confusing brandishing with open carry?

          • Jacob Allen Aikey

            Man, That was the funniest thing I’ve read all week. I really needed that, thank you.

          • Michael R

            Misogyny and personal insults? I’ll take that as admission you have nothing

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        • Declan Dillman

          Still no, unless he unholsters it, and points it or gestures with it.

  • J A Smith

    If he doesn’t stop, he’ll go blind.

    • Maybe he’ll stop when he needs glasses. :-) (Obscure ’70’s movie reference)

  • PavePusher

    I’ll take “Things That Never Happened” for $500, Alex….

  • Declan Dillman

    He’s probably just new, and not used to the feeling of it yet.

  • David Rosier

    He was probably new to carrying. After a while he’ll get used to the gun being there and stop obsessing about it so much.

  • TwoTon

    How come no one will finger me at the grocery store….

  • James Clements

    Out of all the things in the world to talk about this guy and his noobish carrying rank dead last.

  • ricks2524

    Probably a newbie.. My first time I was nervous as all get out. Now it’s like having my socks on.

  • Pod

    Once in awhile I’ll become self-conscious and tug my shirt to loosen it up a tiny bit, even if the shirt is loose. But after carrying for the past few years, it’s just second nature. Here in the Gunshine State, printing isn’t a crime, and here in South Florida, most people are too wrapped up in their phones to notice a slight bulge on one’s hip. And yeah, if it’s that much of an issue, off to the bathroom or my car I will go and do a quick spot-check and adjustment.

    That being said, if I were granted the “privilege” of concealed carry in NYC, I’d wear XXL T-shirts all the time as not to even think about fiddling with my carry piece in public. One wrong move and I’m guessing all hell would break loose in NYC.

  • bobfairlane

    Just holler, in a low voice, Hey rookie, your slip is showing! he’ll probably run out of the store. haha

  • bobfairlane

    Just elbow him, whistle, and say, Hey bro, it’s the 5.0, look out the window.

  • CCMike

    I was at Best Buy and a couple was behind me in line and the guy tapped me on the shoulder and said your showing bud, I was embarrassed tried to pull up my pants and move my shirt, thanked him finished my business and left. Got home and my wife says how long have you been walking around with your zipper down? My gun was never showing.