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DON’T GET INVOLVED: Apartment Complex Resident Hears Argument, Goes Outside To Investigate, Winds Up In Gun Fight With Gang Members

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SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH — A resident in an apartment complex decided to go outside when he heard an argument in the courtyard area. It was a bad idea.

The man, who has a concealed carry permit, apparently got in the middle of something gang related.

“They then took offense to our resident and ended up firing rounds at him. He is a concealed carry holder and returned fire,” Salt Lake City Police Lt. Dave Cracroft said.

The man was shot in the shoulder and taken to the hospital. It is not known if any of his return fire struck anyone involved.

I’m not quite sure how to classify this incident. It’s not “Guns Saving Lives”, because the resident shouldn’t have gone outside to investigate in the first place, IMHO. If something is going down, why not park it inside and dial 911? Entering a hostile environment with a firearm is usually never a good idea.

If you insist on investigating, you’d better be doing it from a safe distance. I’m not sure how close this man got, or if anything was said, but he was definitely picked out by the men involved in the argument. Something must have happened to get to the point of shots being fired in the resident’s direction, no?

What would you have done?

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Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady…

Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady 165 gr FTX Critical Defense rounds, and rides comfortably in an Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 3.0 holster.

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  • Ian Wolfe

    Honestly, it depends on the “argument.” That word covers a lot of territory. How many people? Is anyone I know involved? How agitated/aggressive is it? Can I hear what the dispute is about? Has this happened before, and if so, what was the outcome?

    There are just too many variables to give a decisive answer.

  • Michael Dunfee

    I definitely would not have returned fire unless I was guaranteed a hit

    • DavidyArica Freire

      Back stop and knowing what’s behind you is important. But if someone started shooting at me, I would return fire given the right circumstances; it seems no one got hurt by unintended bullets so I would call this a success.

  • woss

    entering a “hostile environment” isn’t necessarily a bad idea. Depends on circumstances. It sounds like it was only a disturbance until the permit holder appeared and quite possibly escalated the situation. Sometimes it is best to call 911 and observe from a neutral position.