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Armed Citizen Pulls Gun On Suspect Who Was Brutally Beating Police Officer With Baton

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OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA — Rookie Officer Adam Eller, who was responding to a burglary call with his partner, found himself the victim of a violent attack by one of the suspects.

Here are the details of what happened on Tuesday afternoon:

The two suspects in the burglary, Tremaine and Jermaine Williams, are twin brothers. Police say Tremaine was already gone when they arrived, but Jermaine was there and when he saw the officers he took off on foot.

During the chase the two officers became separated. Eller found himself alone when he caught up to Jermaine in a driveway of a nearby home and as he tried to place him under arrest, a fight ensued. During the struggle, Jermaine was able to take Eller’s police baton and then proceeded to strike him over the head somewhere between six and 12 times.

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Then during the attack, a witness –who was armed with a handgun– ran up to the two and pointed it at the suspect. He yelled for Jermaine to stop his assault on Eller and if he didn’t, he would shoot him.

The assault stopped, and both suspects were eventually taken into custody.

Eller was rushed from the scene to OU Medical Center with serious injuries, but was released on Wednesday and is expected to make a full recovery.

This armed witness, still unnamed, may have been the only thing stopping the suspect from doing even more harm than he did.

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  • alwaysright21

    Very few blacks pull their weight. And, if they do there are 10 of their fambly or friends who don’t. Thus the magical 10%. A successful society can not be maintained by “exceptions to the rule!”

  • alwaysright21

    Beaners, they smell like sh!t, ’cause they’re beaners! Mhmm, with a head bob!!

    • Miklo Garcia

      Pussies like you talkin shit over the internet cracks me up! Beans are awesome and don’t tell me you never eat Mexican food lol fuckin dumbass.
      Pussies like you should be curb stomped!!!

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    you have a valid statement but I don’t understand why it conflicts with what dan said

  • alwaysright21

    Your grandfather was a great MAN!

    • Miklo Garcia

      Dude seriously you have some fucked up views.

  • alwaysright21

    You stink like sh!t n!ggerboy!

    • Paul

      Yes but I smell better than you and your whole family. Damn love how you all go right to the racist stuff when you get called out. Couldnt think of t=nothing else could you. LMAO

      • alwaysright21

        “dats rayceez! you all” what a f&cking parrot. You left out “folks and context” and it’s “couldn’t think of ANYTHING, you 75 iQ retarded n!gger

        • Paul

          Wow your IQ is 75? I bet you’re the smartest one in your family aren’t you. Well bless your little heart.

        • Jamal Cotton MA Mba

          You must be autistic or something. I mean those pictures are racist, but also a good measurement of your intelligence which is likely very limited. You are just another insecure little beta male on a Sportster trying to look tough until someone looks you in the eye.

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    But most of a race acting like animals and work at nothing more than being a welfare hoodrats that can define a race

    • Trevor Rees

      The statistics do not support what you are saying. Yes, only 3% or whatever of males in that age bracket are black yet a high percentage of crimes are committed by black males in that age bracket. That does not necessarily mean most black males commit crimes. Do you have a stat on the % of black males who are convicted criminals? Otherwise, its just you being a racist POS. A subset of that population is committing the crimes. One person could be committing 20-30 crimes. Statistics leave a lot to assumption and imagination and story telling.

      • Todd Warmbrodt

        Try this I’m a white man over 50 years old if somebody was to take me to a black neighborhood and drop me off in the middle of that neighborhood and that’s all they did what do you think my chances are of leaving that neighborhood alive .All people whose race is other than black now have to fear the black man they have to wonder if I turn my back am I going to be knocked out for the fun of it or when a black man approaches me in my car is he going to carjack me can I leave my kids or my wife alone in the presence of a black majority if I’m a store owner what then . People have a legitimate reason to fear the black man if he would become a responsible member of society like pull your pants up graduate from high school marry the woman that’s going to have your children and quit acting like the whole entire world owes the black man something.

        • Chalma Patterson

          Just the ones you are speaking of. There are many blacks that speak up and are just as disgusted as you and get called all kinds of names for it, but we do it anyway. Obama and leftists have everyone hating each other and going at each other’s throats. One group or another distrusts and hates the other. I guess Barry and his coven got their wish.

  • alwaysright21

    Beaner takes it up the culo. HA!

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    the truth hurts .a real POS would be Michelle Obama and what she said last night she is an America hating racist bitch

  • Mike Gilmer

    Well you just proved you are a moron.

  • Mike Gilmer

    Take a roll of $100 bills and walk through a white neighborhood at midnight. Do the same with an Oriental neighborhood. Odds are nothing will happen to you. Do the same in any black majority inner city. Just let me know first so I can ask for time off for your funeral.

    • Paul

      I do it all the time. I can’t help that you are to much of a pussy to do that.

      • Mike Gilmer

        Pardon me if I think you are a complete and abject liar.

        • Paul

          That on your little pussy ass. I’m a man first and foremost. Southern raised. The only thing that frightened me, my father passed 6 years ago. I sorry that your father didn’t instill manly traits into you. Maybe you are one of those people that you all like to talk about so much, raised by a single mother. But whatever man up , take off your panties and put on your big boy drawers.

          • Mike Gilmer

            As a Marine, I am sooooo scared. You are a joke.

          • Paul

            So you were a marine, you still are scared you said it yourself. I wouldn’t walk through there. LOL that make you a scared marine pussy period.

          • Mike Gilmer

            Once a Marine, always a Marine, but I would not expect a moron like you to know that.

          • Paul

            I do that that once you’re a pussy you are always a pussy. They should have given your pussy ass a dishonorable discharge for being such a pussy.

          • Mike Gilmer

            You talk big but you are still a coward.

          • Paul

            LOL sorry your pussy ass is scared. Your dad must be real proud.

          • Mike Gilmer

            I live in Knoxville, TN. Come see me. Name the place and time.

          • Paul

            LOL You come and see me I live in North Hollywood California. I wouldnt waste a penny on your pussy ass.

          • Mike Gilmer

            I thought you were a coward. You just confirmed it.

          • Paul

            LOL your pussy ass couldnt bust a grape. You already admitted that your pussy ass was scared. You spend your money fly out here I will gladly learn you a few things, and send your broken pussy ass back home.

          • Mike Gilmer

            Big mouth, no guts. Keep talking coward. That is all you can do.

          • Paul

            Here pussy pussy, here pussy pussy.

          • Mike Gilmer

            Big mouth coward. All you can do is talk from afar. You are afraid to back up your cowardly words. I am not surprised. You and your ilk are always big talking cowards.

          • Paul

            You bring it out here pussy I will lay you to waste.

          • Paul

            Hey pussy girl you are the one who wanted to meet up and get your ass handed to you. So its on you to find away here to take your well deserved whooping like a pussy should.

          • Mike Gilmer

            Talk, talk, talk. That is all you lefty cowards can do.

          • Paul

            LOL thats all you are doing and I’m not a lefty, I just call bullshit when I see it. Now come get your whipping pussy.

          • Mike Gilmer

            Yawn. Sing a new song lefty. That one is getting old.

        • Paul

          Well I already know you weren’t that smart, so stop trying to think you may hurt yourself.

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    That’s such bullcrap, good and bad in every race. How many murders in Baltimore since April 10th 26 at last count . I live in a small town mostly white how many murders do you think happened in my town in the last 10 years how many drive by shooting how many gang rapes, you think we go around playing the knockout game how many flash mobs have we had robbing the local mall .
    Keep voting Democrat maybe in another 50 years you will learn what’s causing the problem

    • Chalma Patterson

      There are good and bad in every race…no one race is pure evil and no one race is pristine and without sin. A lot of people out there are frustrated with how low we have come as a nation. Most here wouldn’t even consider saying some of the things they say on her before Obama came on the scene. I am mad too. But we have to reign in the hatred. The Left has us so mad and gassed up, hating on each other that we are taking our eyes off the real deal: the devious schemes in the form of regulations and legislation, social experiments in every institution that is ruining this country…here and abroad.

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    Dumbass you’re a moron Baltimore has received $1,800,000,000.00 billion dollars for a city that has roughly 700,000 people in it. They have lost 30 percent of their population since the Democrats took over . How many more will leave now because the black man can’t be trusted not to burn down his own neighborhood

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    what’s the percentage of blacks committing crime versus the percentage of whites committing crime compared to their own race . looks to me like you just shoot your mouth off there’s a reason most people won’t go to a black neighborhood can you figure it out

  • Wrabble

    You seem to be immune to logic.

    Blacks commit more crimes per capita than whites do per capita.

    • Paul

      My logic is fine. The stats say whites commit more crime. You all are the ones trying to break it down to fit what ever you want.

      • Wrabble

        I’m beginning to see your perspective.

        Whites put out more fires than blacks. Whites pay more taxes than blacks. There are more white doctors than black doctors. Whites read (and write) more books than blacks. Whites win more Olympic medals and Nobel Prizes than blacks. Whites make more people happy than do blacks. Whites create more inventions than blacks. Whites create more music than blacks. Whites help more old ladies across the streets than blacks do. Whites volunteer more time for the needy than blacks. Whites win more sporting events than blacks. Whites build more houses and apartments than blacks. Whites cure more diseases than blacks. Heck, whites even change more flat tires than blacks.

        Yeah, your approach DOES have a certain appeal to it!

        • Paul

          There it is they also commit more crime.

          • Wrabble

            Yes, whites do commit more of some crimes, since there are more whites.

            However, blacks are more likely to commit crimes.

            At any given day, about one third of black males between ages 20-29 are under criminal supervision (in prison, in jail, under probation, or on parole).

            The percent of white males is MUCH smaller.

          • Paul

            Not really. You see we are arrested and convicted at a much higher rate for the same crime that you all commit.

          • Wrabble

            The reason blacks are arrested and convicted more often is because they are more likely to commit crimes. If you believe otherwise, prove it.

          • williamdiamon

            Whites comprise 85% of the population, Blacks the other 15%. Each commit about 50% of the crime in America. Therefore, Blacks commit crime More Frequently then Whites is a more accurate assessment of the issue.
            BTW/ The FBI considers between 50% and 90% of our murder and violent crime rates to be the result of gangs warring for control of “drug turf” in our inner cities. Do you consider infiltration and prosecution of these gangs and cartels using RICO laws an effective way to reduce or crime rates?.

          • Paul

            Which is more 6 million crime for whites or 2 million crimes for blacks? Its an easy answer, unless you’re not educated which may be the case. Go ask for some help with simple math.

          • williamdiamon

            You tell me,
            FBI DATA, 12,023 agencies reporting, 2011 Keep in mind Blacks comprise 15% of our population, White or Hispanic the other 85%.

            Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
            White=8,341 / Black=4,000

            Forcible rape
            White=14,611 / Black=9,504

            Robbery
            White=82,436 / Black=35,443

            Aggravated assault
            White=305,220 / Black=194,981

            Burglary
            White=227,899 / Black=151,934

            Larceny-theft
            White=977,743 / Black=670,768

            Motor vehicle theft
            White=50,902 / Black=32,575

            Arson
            White=8,965 / Black=6,479

            Also,
            Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
            Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate.
            Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

            Again, back to gangs and the 50% to 90% of violent crime including murder we find in our society,
            Ten percent of youth gang members are white. Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
            .

            BTW/ Why do you keep mentioning race? Why can’t we simply address the issue of our drug war and it’s role as a commodity for criminal enterprise? Regardless of race involved, it really does sound like you’re trying to defend a race when it’s really behavior that we should focus on.

          • Geralt_0f_Rivia

            Outstanding overall, and that last bit: BINGO!

          • Paul

            Once again what is more 6 or 2?

          • Jean Valjean

            Whites comprise 77.7 percent of the population.

            Blacks comprise 13.2 percent of the population.

            There are 5.89 times more whites than blacks, so whites should be expected to commit 5.89 times the number of crimes as blacks.

            But as William Diamond’s research clearly points out, whites only commit between a minimum of 1.38, to a maximum of 2.33 times the crime.

            How do you explain this away?

          • williamdiamon

            Perhaps he’s using common core math, where you simply make up whatever answer you want. Or he needs a calculator.

          • Paul

            Once again what is more 6 or 2?

  • koowah

    Correct,

  • koowah

    Per capita, dumbass

  • Ophelia5338

    U need to start comparing sources for stats. The FBI combines white and Hispanic stats…meaning two much larger populations combined commits the same amount of crime as 13 percent. Cdc has better records.
    Also instead of addressing the crime itself…they play with the actual charges…now very violent offenses are being downgraded to much lesser offenses for certain ppl…

    • Mike Gilmer

      Actually the FBI breaks out Hispanics from non Hispanic whites so your statement is not accurate. Secondly, there are other sources:

      Young black men kill 14X more than young white men. Source: Time Magazine

      42% of all cop killers are black. Source: 2013 FBI Statistics on Law Enforcement Officers Killed

      Blacks victims of homicide are 93% of the time killed by other blacks. Source: US Department of Justice

      In 2006, blacks made up nearly 40% of the total prison population, despite being only 12% of the general population. Source: Bureau of Justice

      Now I know you will not care as liberal apologists ignore any facts and statistics they do not like or do not fit into their liberal canon, but facts are facts.

      • Ophelia5338

        Liberal. ..me?
        bwahaha! That’s funny…
        ive been called every name in the book for sharing the info I shared with you.
        I was just sharing info…no harm intended. Most ppl don’t know about the stats thing. Or the fact that in police departments and Sherriff offices across the country they are being made to downgrade violent offenses into petty offenses before black males can even be charged. Therefore, not addressing the issues of black crime but altering the stats through falsification.
        They have already taken much needed money from schools by fining schools who suspend black males more often than white and Asianmales. Not looking atthe offenses only the numbers. Nevermind, if the school is 99 percent minority either. ..our district was fined over a million dollars. I imagine law enforcement is facing the same penalties.
        Not a peep from the media either. The federal gvt is robbing our local agencies.

        • Mike Gilmer

          Yes, you are right. The FBI is cooking the statistical books because they are racists just like their bosses Eric Holder and Barak Obama, both noted white racists.

          • Les Legato

            Scrolling though this long pile of crap thread and yours is the real winner!

  • Todd Warmbrodt

    Take those black stats and multiply them by 6 since white people out number blacks by 6 to 1

    • Paul

      Do whites commit more crime or not. You can’t say what would happen because you don’t know. Every one of those make believe people could be upright citizens.

  • Holliday Doc

    WHITE POWER WILL WIN !

  • Holliday Doc

    BLACKS KILL BLACKS , THEY DO NOT CARE

  • Rudolf F. Borsics

    If they do not get proper values at home, and they do not get it in school, where do they get them? Rap and Hollywood.That is worse than “Lord of the Flies” where the children made up their own values. Integrating schools against the wishes of the people did not bring the black student up to the level of the white, it brought the level of the white student down. It was the lack of discipline in schools, smarts does not rub off of whites. Well maybe it does and that is why there are more and more stupid ones coming out of the educational system. It did not rub off onto blacks. Maybe it rubbed off on the walls.

    • Chalma Patterson

      It’s everywhere though, the nation is going down the tubes as “we the people” keep turning to government and abandoning our Judeo-Chrisitan philosophy.

    • davidkc53

      Sad facts, but true……

    • Bodie

      I hate this assertion. It’s not the movies, music or video games. It’s entirely a cultural problem. Nobody will change their statistics and attitude but themselves. When they call for a prison sentence for a White man and accuse him of being racist simply because he was attacked by a Black man who tried to take his gun and kill him, but was instead killed himself, there are obvious deep inherent issues.

      Blanketing a whole demographic and saying, “they all” is never appropriate. But when a specific population of people are responsible for so much while being such a small minority, and while not all people within that population are responsible for these acts, those who aren’t committing the violence and crimes are overwhelmingly defending those who are. If you’re not actively participating but you are sitting back and justifying or excusing it, you are completely complicit. And that’s their entire problem. To say 95% would not be an exaggeration at all. The few who completely condemn and criticize the acts and attitude of the rest, are called “Uncle Tom” and a million other defaming names by the 95%.

      Everything that doesn’t go their way is immediately described as a result of racism. Can’t pass a written civil service test to be hired by a police department? Accuse the department and test of being racially unfair, contact the NAACP so they can threaten a law suit, get the department to recall applicants who failed the written test (phase 1 of 5) with scores as low as 35%, have the department give them special hiring standards by removing the written test, physical fitness test, background check, and polygraph test, and have them hire Black applicants solely based on an interview while everyone else has to complete all of the above and compete among each other instead of just among their race, then lastly have one of those “Equal Opportunity” special privilege hires baton and pepper spray an Autistic 12 year old because he mistook the child’s speech impediment for “disrespecting [him],” thus forcing the city to lose in the end anyway by avoiding an NAACP lawsuit but having to pay out a police brutality suit instead. This really happened.

      Arrested for committing a crime? Must be the work of racism. Not hired for a job because you’re unqualified? Racism again. Asked to leave a family restaurant because you’re cussing loudly, berating the staff, and assaulted a nearby patron who asked you to stop swearing in front of his child? You guessed it, racism. They have such rough lives filled with discrimination; they truly believe this. Generation after generation, they convince and train their children that everyone is out to get them because they’re all racists. I was 11 years old when me and 3 friends were hanging out with our other friend who was Black, and we broke an action figure. His parents called our parents, accused us of doing it intentionally because we were racists and didn’t believe a Black boy deserved to have nice things, and told them to have us stay away from their son so they didn’t come home and find him hanging from a tree (this was 1996 and not only did we not understand what racism was at 11 years old, he really was a close friend of ours). We were absolutely ordered by our parents to stay the hell away from him and his crazy racist family. By the time we reached high school, he was walking around wearing Malcom X t-shirts, had an Afro pick with a Black Power fist for a handle sticking out of his back pocket for display, and deliberately isolated himself from everyone in school who wasn’t Black. He now writes Op-Ed articles that are 100% fiction, which he obviously does so he can gain credibility within the Black community. Because by their standards, the more adversity you face as a result of hate, the cooler you are. What makes me the most infuriated by the smut that he writes is the lies he tells about our teachers in high school. The two of us had English together our Junior year and he was absolutely adored by our teacher because of his writing. She also happened to be a friend of my family. She often stayed after class with him to give him personal pointers and critiques to help him grow as a writer, and always asked him if she could read his papers to the class because she liked them so much. He now writes about how his teachers in high school wouldn’t pay any attention to him because he was Black, and he was once told to give up on his writing as he won’t amount to anything since very few Black people are writers (that last part doesn’t even make any GD sense). It’s absolutely mind blowing and totally infuriating to read the racist lies he writes, throwing an entire city under the bus — especially teachers who specifically donated their own spare time to him because they believed in him — solely for his own ego to look like another poor victim of nonexistent discrimination.

      They eat, sleep, breathe and preach hate. White people specifically walk on eggshells to appease them, and they do nothing but throw it in White people’s faces. Being called a racist used to really bother White people. Now, nobody gives a $h(t because everyone now knows no matter what they do, they’ll still be called a racist, still watch them behave like animals, and still have to worry about falling victim to their violence. None of this will ever change until Black people change their culture. When being a victim while also being a hardened criminal — two totally conflicting things that once again make NO sense at all — are no longer valued, and responsibility for one’s own actions is finally an accepted concept, THEN there will be change.

      Until then: More blaming, more criminality, more dependence on everyone else’s work while openly wishing for no more White people (who do NOTHING to them), more violence, and MUCH more racism are in store for all of us. They like to say, “Racism is learned, you’re not born that way.” And it’s absolutely true. Exposure is what teaches it, not the fantasy they like to believe, that all of the racist White parents are teaching it to their kids. Watching video after video they post of themselves on the internet violently victimizing people, is what teaches it.

      • Chastity Lewis

        You absolutely nailed it! Wow! As one of the MANY who are sick of the race card excuse… THANK YOU for being spot on.

      • Mike Herron

        I think its how most are raise. Just like back 50 60 70plus years ago. Most or a big number of white folx were raised that Black were 2nd class citizens. So not all but most raised that way believed that way. So now you have the black community doing basically the same with there children. They owe us we were there slaves. If your not white your not privileged. All whites are racist. Black cannot be racist because whitey owns racism…… So on. Martin Luther King jr from what I understand wanted this to be different. Color has nothing to do with brain power or the way people are, but the way you are raised does play a big role in who most are. Not skin color. jmho

        • 2BRKnot2B

          Every black child, like every white child can lift themselves up. Parenting has a large say in this. Many inner city black youths go on to be highly regarded, hard workers, moral people. The vast majority do not like anyone who tries, because when one tries it proves the others are not. So, per pressure makes the majority act as dumb as posts, and that way they are bale to say they must be taken care of, and coddled by government social programs.

      • 2BRKnot2B

        When “Boys in the ‘Hood” came out, everyone realized there was a problem in inner city, and black neighborhoods predominantly. The black leaders told us that the movies weren’t trying to get black folks to kill each other, they were just emulating the killing going on at the time.The problem was identified, and 20 years later, has yet to be addressed.

    • 2BRKnot2B

      No. More dumb whites coming out due to communist core.

  • Rudolf F. Borsics

    You must be a babe coming out of the woods.

    • Jamal Warner

      So your post must mean you do not have a source.

  • Wrabble

    Paul you are wonderful.

    Thank you for reminding us why some people can never hold jobs that require critical thinking skills.

  • Rudolf F. Borsics

    Bull. There may be rotten apples in all bags. Some bags have one or two, In others 80% of the apples may be rotten. You have trouble understanding ratios? Hitler has nothing to do with Ferguson.

  • Wrabble

    I used to be on the scholarship committee for my undergrad alumni association.

    It was not uncommon for us to give scholarships to Asian immigrants who came here not knowing any English and not having any money. They often lived in the poor areas. But through hard work, a strong family influence, and an appreciation for education, they pulled themselves up to earn those scholarships.

    One of the common experiences they shared was they were all bullied by blacks and/or Hispanics, who saw education as irrelevant.

  • Wrabble

    In areas that are predominantly black, close to 100% of the violent crime is committed by blacks. Therefore, using your logic, they must be incredibly violent.

    • Paul

      Same for white areas

  • Berkeley Josh

    I believe that is neoliberal capitalism, which means more profit, more inequality, and then let’s say its racial so we can have tension between the poor and middle class. Ignorantly playing the race card to justify the inequality.

    • Dan Dugo

      No, that is just the liberal end game goal for America at work, it’s called Marxist Socialism.

  • Berkeley Josh

    My guess is you probably masterbate to interainterracial porn in between your personality order induced racial rants. PTSD!?

  • 0hiojoe

    Good guy with a gun saved that Police Officers life. We all make choices in life, select the life of a criminal, you end up in prison or worse. These twin brothers could just have easily followed direction from teachers at school and then when old enough, went into the Military. Just because you are raised in a hard environment that is no excuse to go down the wrong path.

  • lookatthis

    I LOVE when people read something they don’t like and their first response is, “Site your source” “what is your source?” …. I can’t do everything in life for you. Time to be a grown up and let go of mommy’s hand. You have google or bing or ask just like everyone else. Do your research! Look it up yourself and stop being lazy! You might learn something

  • Connie

    A big, heartfelt thank-you to the ‘armed witness’ who saved the life of one of Oklahoma’s finest. But that is what MOST Oklahomans are about!!

  • Wrabble

    “Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men.”

    ideas.time DOT com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/

  • Wrabble

    FBI Uniform Crime Reports
    2013 Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted

    “Profile of alleged known assailants

    In 2013, 28 alleged offenders were identified in connection with the 27 law enforcement officers feloniously killed. Of those offenders, the following characteristics are known:



    15 of the alleged offenders were white, 11 were black, and race was not reported for 2 offenders.

    …”

    fbi DOT gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/leoka/2013/officers-feloniously-killed/felonious_topic_page_-2013

    IOW, of the 28 offenders who killed officers, at least 11 (39%) were black.

  • Wrabble

    About 93% of black homicide victims and 85% of white victims in single victim and singleoffender homicides were murdered by someone of their race.

    Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics

    bjs DOT gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

    (note – pdf file)

    • Jamal Warner

      That simply prove that white people kill mostly white people and black people kill mostly other black people. Go figure!

      • Wrabble

        Jamal, you had asked for references to Mike Gilmer’s data. i provided you with those references – they were very easy to locate on the net.

        You’re welcome.

      • Conan the Republican

        “Jamal”. What Cracker Jack box did you get THAT name from?

        • Jamal Warner

          You idiot its arabic. You may not know being a small minded individual.

          • Conan the Republican

            If you’re an American, why in the HELL do you have an Arabic name?? Oh, I get it…Barack Hussein Obama.

          • Jamal Warner

            America has many different people from all religions. There is no such thing as an American name, but the sad part is you don’t realize it. Go Figure!

          • Les Legato

            Why do so many black Americans take arabic names and/or convert to islam,?

            Aren’t you aware that Arabic muslims ran the bulk of the slave trade from Africa?

            f I were black and couldn’t live with “John” or “David” or other biblical names, I’d try “Abraham” or “Hiram” or “Ulysses” to honor the names of the men who set my ancestors free.

  • Wrabble
  • Wrabble

    Mike,

    This site (like a few other sites) blocks ALL direct hyperlinks.

    One way around that is this (example link):

    bjs DOT gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

    Their server does not evaluate and block that text as a hyperlink. Hopefully the reader can copy, paste, and edit the link to properly replace the ” DOT ” with a period.

    This particular link brings up a .pdf file of your stat about 93% of black victims being killed by other blacks.

    • Mike Gilmer

      I did not post any hyperlinks. I only posted the statistics and cited my source — The FBI. It just seems that some sites do not like you to cite statistics that are not politically correct.

      • Wrabble

        OK, thanks for the explanation. I was just trying to help. Sometimes if enough users flag a post it will be marked for pending moderation, regardless of the content.

        I find it unlikely that the mods for a forum “concealed nation” would be very liberal.

        I was able to post the stats and links for several of the things you mentioned.

      • Paul

        One other thing to consider. Discus has an integrity rating on posters it makes available to moderators. This can be used as a basis to hold something for moderation on some sites (at the site’s discretion). You might have had a run-in on another site and had many false Spam flags put on you. If you know a moderator on a friendly site, have them check your rating. It can effect how you are handled across all forums, or so I have been told.

        • Mike Gilmer

          Actually I have not.

      • Bodie

        You should know that facts are racist by now. Duh! Reality and truth is racist. Unless of course it’s something negative and about White people. Then it’s ok. “So what if dozens of Black people are killing people and killed each weekend in Chicago alone. You just say that because you’re a racist. Plus, most mass shooters are White people and that happens like once a year.”

        (That last line, which is parroted often about white people and mass shootings, is completely untrue. It’s just that the high profile psychopaths have been White. Way more mass shooter’s are Black. But we all know the media, and how it no longer holds any ethics whatsoever, which willingly hides certain stories while putting in a ton of effort to distort and exaggerate others. Liberals will do whatever it takes to protect their protected classes and slander their hated classes. Even if it means writing a story about a police bulletin warning the public about an armed rapist on the loose, but refusing to give a description for the public’s safety, since the dangerous person we should all be on the lookout for is Black and they don’t want us to know that.)

    • Proud Conservative Mom

      Thanks for doing such a terrific job, Wrabble! I hope you and all of your loved ones are doing well in every way.

  • Wrabble

    “Concealed Nation” is part of the “leftist media?”

    • Mike Gilmer

      Just because they purport to be pro Second Amendment does not mean they are not politically correct in other areas.

      • Wrabble

        I see a LOT of posts that are much farther to the right than those of yours that were marked for review. Keep in mind that if enough posters flag a post, it will get so marked.

  • Wrabble

    So segregation is directly responsible for the creation of slums?

    • Howard Anderson

      Segregation has had a MAJOR role in creating slums. That is an easy one there.. just google that and watch all the research which comes up which has been done on it. Anytime you have a concentration of one element in an area and an opposite force in an area close by, the opposite force will try to repel the first element causing major issues in the area between the two. Look at the southern states and you’ll see what segregation did there.

      • Wrabble

        Has integration been successful?

        • Howard Anderson

          On the whole yes! Ever since the Jim Crowe laws have been repealed, there have been MANY advancement in medicine, literature, sciences, entertainment and more because the race issues were being worked out. Until recently, and I say that over the past 6 years especially, there has been more and more people TRYING to race bait the other side into fights and an all out race war. I don’t know what these people seem to think it would EVER accomplish though… I can’t ever see a total control of the country by the government as a GOOD thing and the loss of all liberties as a good thing either. So it’s seriously only stupidity which moves those people to continue on in this direction. And it’s only total stupidity to think another race is ever better than the others… for the Creationists, we all come from one man and one woman.. for the evolutionists, we all come from the same primordial puddle of ooze so it really is pointless…

          • Wrabble

            “And it’s only total stupidity to think another race is ever better than the others..”

            Are some races more likely to experience some diseases than other races? IOW, are there differences between races?

          • Howard Anderson

            So are you trying to get that because one race may develop a certain disease that makes them inferior to another race? And physically, the ONLY differences in our races is the color of our skin, and the hair on our bodies.. because once you get past the pigmentation it’s all red blood, bones and organs in each and everyone of us.. and not a damned difference at that point from anyone… so if you’re done trying to troll something negative here…

          • Wrabble

            I was highlighting that some inherited attributes do follow race. That’s a fact.

  • Paul

    The worst riot in this country Tulsa riots, started by people much like you. Over 300 black people killed by whites, they looted their houses, killed black vets, burnt down all their homes and businesses, 10,000 black people left homeless, stole their property afterwards. Whites have a much longer history of rioting and looting than black people.

    • jay2010master

      That was 90 years ago. So your saying the riots happening now are because of that? At least whites grew up. It appears that the blacks didn’t grown up as they are still doing this today.

      If the Black community keep on doing what they are doing now you may see worst riots than the one in Tulsa from whites. Don’t take our patience for complacency. There will be a day that other races will get tired of the Black community complaining and rioting and will use force to put any race in their place where they are not above the law. For a person to casual dismiss this because another race did a long time ago and ignore the laws that are broke and people that are hurt just shows what kind of person and mentality are running loose in the country – like you.

      Oh by the way all races riot and looted in the medieval times including blacks. So don’t say one has a longer history than another. That just shows how uneducated you are.

      • Paul

        Ok lets talk about the white riots at the pumpkin fest, Redondo Beach Surf riot, the one they just had in Seattle, the one they just had in Boston on the beach, the one where when your team wins or loses. You haven’t grown at all, you just like to act like you’re better than everyone else, when you are right down here in the dirt with us.

        • jay2010master

          Yeah those are the same Paul. Pumpkinfest cost the city about 150,000. The one in Ferguson and soon to be this one over 5 million. Even expert sociologists say you can’t compare the two. Why don’t you stop trying to defend a lost cause. The facts remains. Rioters deserve anything that comes their way from anyone that protect their property. If they get shot oh well. That blacks as a lower percentage pf the population commit more crimes – that is a fact backed up by data. Read it before opening the mouth. Fact People will get tired of their property getting taken from them when they worked hard for it. This will have dire consequences for anyone that is doing the actual taking. I would love to see this happen in my neighborhood to see the outcome – it wouldn’t be pretty.

          • Paul

            Still a riot. You can compare all of them you just try not to.

          • jay2010master

            First you did the comparing, and I might add not a very good job of it. You compared a party riot to ariot started because of a perceived racist sediment. In expert sociologist views this is apples to oranges. One is a civil right things and the other is a bunch of drinkers. Second let’s remember that some of the riots that happened in the civil area were deemed justified shooting (ie. a person not obeying the law) and others are still working their way through the system. People need to realize that you may not like law enforcement, however you along with everyone else has to follow the laws – period, or their would be huge social and economical societal break down followed by one race shooting other races. I would say at the present time the whites would probably win that battle given the population percentage.

            Something that rioters forget when they destroy property like in Ferguson. A justified shooting and great loss to property because the rioters thought they were right. In this case they weren’t. Let it be said that damaging another person’s property is never right and shows disrespect for your community, people, and a whole host of other entities. So if you want to live in the dark ages and think it is okay then I would say you are an entitlement person thinking you deserve everyone’s elses property when you haven’t worked for it. And there’s nothing anyone could say to you to change your mind because it is close minded and selfish by wanting or destroying what others have. Discussion closed.

          • Paul

            A riot is a riot nothing to compare.

  • Paul

    Easy question. Do the stats say whites commit more crime?

    • Noel Wenrich

      Simplistic question by someone who wants to ignore the actual crime rate in a population. Since there is a higher population of whites as a whole yes it is to be expected that the total number of crimes committed by that population would be higher.

      That is like saying we have 100 people in this room 72 are white 28 are black. Since 20 white people coughed and only 10 Black people coughed White people as a population cough more than Blacks. Now we know that is a Logical fallacy and so is your using just the raw numbers. It is misleading and false. The reality in this fictional study is that 27% of whites coughed vs 35% of blacks. So in this study the truth is that Blacks would have coughed more than Whites. Your data was misleading since it was not an equal sampling of each.

      The simpler question is per capita that means we are computing the number of crimes committed by that specif population alone and find the percentage of the population committing the crimes, then compare your results. that is a equal comparison of crime rates by race. Sadly it turns out that Blacks lead the per capita crime commission rate in every category.

      To quote you Paul “Fuck the per capita!” Since it disproves your premise that as a people Whites commit more crime. While they commit a higher number of crimes when calculated as a percentage of the population your assertion falls apart and Blacks commit crimes at a higher percentage based on population.

      If you do not like that statistic perhaps we should do something to change the overall crime rate to start with and that of your chosen group specifically. You are looking to just prove whites are involved with more crime and ignore the facts that as a people Blacks commit crime at a higher ratio based on population than whites. That is not Racist but a simple fact based on the numbers you provide. To deny that and only try say Whites commit more crime is borderline since you are denying the truth.

      If you deny that as a truth then you are simply looking to make Whites look bad not the truth about the numbers and that makes you a Racist in my book and I am done with you.

      • Paul

        Did you answer the question?

        • Noel Wenrich

          Did you read the response or are you so blinded by your prejudice that you skipped that part. I have answered your question 3 times and you refuse to acknowledge the Facts I presented. So obviously you are prejudiced and ignore facts you don’t agree with (even when the facts are from your own information) and only want facts that support your position.To me that makes you a racist.

          • Paul

            Which is more 6 million or 2 million? Maybe you’re not educated, ask someone to help you with the answer.

  • Paul

    I have not change it once. The stats show that white commit more crime.

  • Paul

    No the dont. You are going off of some fictional if this or more people that. The stats clearly shows that white people commit more crime.

  • Paul

    Whats more 600 or 200?

  • Wrabble

    In Chicago, blacks commit over 70% of the murder.

  • Wrabble

    A bum would be someone who has zero understanding of simple statistical concepts like “per capita,” or “rate per hundred thousand people.”

  • Keith

    Thank god for the armed citizen,the officer may not be alive today if it wasnt for him. Im sure the bad guys family will try and say it should have stayed out of it and try to sue him.

  • Chalma Patterson

    Every single black person in America lies? Allen West, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Justice Thomas and countless others out there trying to make a difference trying to wake everyone up are liars? Black males do commit a large number of crimes I will give you that, the statistics support it, and there are a lot of blacks in America are clueless about the people they vote for but not ALL blacks are worthless human beings no more than all whites are angels. This world is fallen and evil exists and it has always existed since the fall. 60 years of secular progressive policies and cultural Marxism has had a strangle hold on this nation. People from all walks of life have been deceived and do horrendous things in the name of evil. But there are many good people our there from all walks of life that are still trying to press on and are trying to whats right despite the depressing circumstances. I am black, conservative and Christian as is my immediate family. My father became a conservative before he died and I have many family members and friends of both races that are out there trying to win over hearts and minds by trying to keep others informed, working in our communities and sharing the power of the Gospel. There are evil individuals in just about every group out there. By the way, the majority of liberal politicians that pass jacked up laws that affect the rest of us are mostly white. But there are plenty of whites that are trying upright the ship of America like everyone else.

    • Dan Dugo

      Chalma, I agree not all black people are bad or “thugs”, in fact, most are just normal people. However, there is that smaller percentage that is committing most of the crime for that race. Like Martin Luther King Jr said as long as 10% for the black community is committing 50% of the crimes there will still be prodigious against gun (it has venn a while since I read the quote but that is essentially what he said) and I agree with him. The black community as a whole needs to get out of this slave mentality they have “I’m at an emediate disadvantage because I’m black, don’t tell the white man, being conservative aka not a democrat is acting white, completing high school and moving on to higher education is actings white, etc. Black people are the #1 racists against black people.

  • Mike Gilmer

    You are exactly right. The FBI under noted white racist Eric Holder who worked for noted white racist Barak Obama actively conspired to cook the books to make black people look bad. (I hope everybody sees how stupid the arguments of Kia Jones are).

  • Noel Wenrich

    You are a racist I have shown you several times that when you break your raw numbers down by percentage of Population of that race Blacks lead every catagory. Your racist rant include the phrase “Fuck per capita crime” You ignore the facts you do not like in order to move your point forward. I pointed out that since whites vastly outnumber blacks in the general population then Whites should lead in EVERY CATEGORY. But that is not so and when you look at the simple math used to calculate per capita crime Blacks lead every category. You ignore or deny that facts which do not support your statement and only can respond who commits more crime not which race is committing more crime based on population, which makes you a racist!

    • Paul

      LOL Do the FBI crime stats state that white people commit more crime? I’ll wait. I’m racist for pointing out the truth lol. You so funny.

      • Noel Wenrich

        No your a Racist because you ignore the fact that when your own stats are broken down by percapita instances of crime Blacks lead every catagory. Your response to that is “Fuck per capita crime” as I stated above. You continue to use only statistics (Raw data which is not comparing the crime rate based on representation of the population) Again based on percentage of total population using the raw numbers Whites should lead every category. Yet they don’t?? But don’t let facts get in the way or your racism. Did you know that more black babies are murdered every week than have ever been lynched? It is called Abortion and you are doing it to your own race.

        • Paul

          Listen cunty I dismissed your racist cunt ass 2 days ago.

          • Noel Wenrich

            Such a mature response. Well we now know who deals in facts and who is just blinded by hatred of another race.

      • Jamal Cotton MA Mba

        Your arguing with trash that are insignificant in real life? This [email protected] probably sweeps my floors, but calls me all kinds of n#ggers under his breath because his life is under average. He probably barely has a GED, but is trying to talk statistics instead of getting back to his God given talent of changing oil at Jiffy Lube.

        He has no clue what racist even means. He is not racist since he has no power or influence over anything of importance in life. Just a “beta: male mad at the world.

    • Paul

      Is 6million crimes more than 2 million crimes?

      • Wrabble

        Look at this chart of the race of the prison population in 2009:

        en.wikipedia DOT org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#/media/File:USA_2009._Percent_of_adult_males_incarcerated_by_race_and_ethnicity.png

        Of all adult males, these percentages are in prison or jail, by race:

        4.7% are Black
        1.8% are Hispanic
        0.7% are White.

        Is 4.7% larger than 0.7%?

        Yes, blacks are OVER NINE TIMES AS LIKELY TO BE IN PRISON AS WHITES AND ARE MORE THAN TWICE AS LIKELY TO BE IN PRISON AS HISPANICS.

        • Paul

          Answer the question. Which is more 6 million crimes for white people or 2 million crimes for black people.

          • Wrabble

            Blacks kill people at a rate 6 time that of whites. 6 is larger than 1. Right?

          • williamdiamon

            It was when I went to school, maybe they changed it.

          • Wrabble

            I think under Common Core, 6 may not be larger than 1.

          • Jed

            It all depends on how you feel about it at the time.

          • Paul

            Answer the question its easy we all know.

          • Wrabble

            Yep, blacks are six times as likely to commit murder.

          • Paul

            LOl White 12 time more likely to rape. Now answer the question

          • Paul

            Answer the question.

      • Noel Wenrich

        Go back and read the post on the perceptive crime rates. You only present the raw information which based on percentage of population whites should lead every catagory of raw numbers. They don’t but when broken down by percentage of population Blacks do. To which you responded “Fuck Per Capita” by denying that is a true statistic based on the numbers you provided you are a racist and I no longer have time for your sad responses. you only ave one talking point and do not respond to the other facts presented. So to me you are just as racist as the most devote member of the KKK you are not interested in changing the community for the better only in finding a way to make the Whites look bad.

        • Paul

          Answer the question. Which is more 6 million or 2 million? Nothing else needed.

        • Paul

          Once again what is more 6 or 2? its simple math

          • Noel Wenrich

            Once again which is higher Percentage of population committing your crimes?
            Whites 6,578,133 Blacks 2,697,539
            Forcible Rapes- Whites 0.14% Blacks 0.18%
            Aggravated Assaults-White 2.96% Black 3.80
            Murders-White 0.06% Blacks 0.15%
            Robbery-White 0.54% Blacks 1.70%

            So if you Black population was the same as white Damn those numbers would be out of control

            But again those are just the facts when you check the rate of crime by population
            Simple math which is higher. Even easier which race leads in every category based on crime by population?

            Can your racist mind grasp that or will your answer be another “Fuck per capita crime rate”

    • Wrabble

      Paul can’t face reality.

      • Cajun Exile

        For Paul it is all “Million Man Math Made Easy™”….

      • Noel Wenrich

        Paul is just as rabid as the most devout member of the KKK. His interest is not in improving his community but only of finding a way to blame the White man for the problems found within his community.

        • Wrabble

          I suspect that it’s also personal for “Paul.” He needs to blame SOMEONE for his own failure.

    • Jamal Cotton MA Mba

      You are stupid and probably never did anything in your life, but complain about everyone else instead of looking in the mirror. A coward that never served his country or busted a grape for anyone in your life. I could destroy you with statistics, but I am willing to bet you are nothing, but trash that is probably abusing the entitlements you blame low income Blacks and Mexicans for utilizing. I am sure my family goes back a lot farther in this country then yours by centuries. I served my country and earned my right to be an American and my bloodline is more American than yours ever will be.

      What the f#ck have you done besides being a certifiable cowardly piece of shet spewing hate on the internet? Most f#cks like you sweeps floors for a living while being bitter at the world and cannot even keep a woman because after a while you make them want to vomit.

      PS, You stupid POS, African Americans are on average are genetically between 15-27% Caucasian so save the race argument because it is clear you have no understanding of what that means.

      You are not racist since you have no power and that is what really pissses you off.

      Get some!

      • Noel Wenrich

        15 years Active Duty Medical retired E-6 after breaking my neck in a helicopter accident while on active duty. Betting you did not rise above E-4 with statements like those show a lack of intelligence. OH BTW Bachelor of science in Information technology (network Management) Graduated Magna Cum Laude. Applications Anaylist Level 3 for a Major (Nationwide) Hospital system, So I have a Good job, Good house and Great Family, I am also a Past President of a School Board (google it idiot) Past Master of a Masonic Lodge (Google that also), State Vice-President of a Masonic Motorcycle Association, Involved in many fund raising events for many children programs and Veteran Aid programs, the list goes on, so that’s what I have done with my life. Exactly what have you done? Of course you know it all but yet know nothing. All your assumptions about who I am proved that you are nothing but an ignorant fool. If ignorance is bliss you must be on happy individual. BTW my family immigrated from Germany to America in the early 1800s

  • Wrabble

    In 2013, blacks committed more murders than did whites, per the FBI (5,375 vs 4,396).

    Which is more, 5,375 blacks or 4,396 whites?

    fbi DOT gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_3_murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2013.xls

    Blacks kill more people.

    And when you add in the fact that there are six times as many whites than blacks, that makes blacks even MORE dangerous!

    Finally, consider that the stat for whites includes Hispanics.

    When you compare only the numbers for non-Hispanic Whites, blacks are incredibly FAR more dangerous than the whites who outnumber them.

  • Wrabble

    Look at this chart of the race of rapists in NYC in 2011.

    liveleak DOT com/view?i=57c_1336487670

    55.5% black
    26.3% hispanic
    8.4% white.

    Which is larger, 55.5% (black) or 8.4%(white)?

    Maybe you can tell us why black males are far more likely to commit rape than whites.

    • Paul

      No lets look at 2013 the last year out. Once again is 6million more than 2 million?

      • Wrabble

        Black are far more likely to commit crimes than whites. That’s very easy to see.

        Blacks commit well over 90% of the crime in Africa.

  • Bucksergeant

    You cherry picked your stats. You conveniently left out the fact that the Black Stats are being done by only 13% of the population. .. There, fixed it for you.

    • ghostofThomasPaine2

      You got to understand the progressive plantation slave,here is a visual of what you are dealing with.

    • Jamal Warner

      black stats are being doing by the people who committed the crimes. Great way to try to deflect the fact your race commits most of the crimes.

      • Bucksergeant

        Obviously you were never good at math.
        p.s. what makes you think I am white?

        • Jamal Warner

          You are debating white stats and other posts were on republican sites. Does not take a rocket scientist to figure that. Go Figure!

          • Bucksergeant

            Your posting is hard to understand, try posting in English.

          • Jamal Warner

            I see you still have yet to disprove what I posted. You have nothing to offer to the argument.

          • Bucksergeant

            Sorry, I don’t post in Ebonics so you wouldn’t understand, you’re just as dumb as a box of rocks.

          • Jamal Warner

            You are deflecting from my post again. Address the issue presented to you or admit you have nothing to counter my claim.

          • Bucksergeant

            Jamel, you have no claim, you’re just too stupid to understand.

          • Jamal Warner

            So this must mean you still will not address my earlier posts.

          • Bucksergeant

            Jamel, remember in high school when you called the diligent black students Urkel and accused them of acting white when they got good grades?. Now all of that is coming back to haunt you because you are just plain stupid and it’s all your fault. I will never give you an answer because you didn’t understand it the first time and now you want it again? Sorry. You’re just not able to understand.

          • Rhetorical Brutality

            Nope, no rank bigotry to see here, white folks. Move along, please!

            FAIL.

          • Jamal Warner

            You fail at life!

          • Jamal Warner

            No one will bother addressing my claims head on. If you are that intelligent then simply prove me wrong.

      • Jed

        “black stats are being doing by the people who committed the crimes”? Please speak English. My gibberish is a bit rusty.

        • Jamal Warner

          You still trying to deviate from my post about FBI stats on white crimes. Nice try to deflect from the posts. Now address my claim that white people commit the most crimes. I find that people always try to look past a post content and focus on something minuscule as a type-o to deflect from the issue. Debate my post.

          • Jed

            No deflection intended or required. You have consistently proved your understanding of elementary mathematics to be lacking. Until you understand the concept of a per capita statistical analysis you will not be able to understand the data.

          • Paul

            You have proven to have an astounding grasp of the obvious. Most of the people in a room will do the most of just about anything. This is why per capita figures are compared. Apples to Apples. This is a basic concept. It isn’t even statistics. It isn’t a conspiracy, It is high school level math.

          • Jamal Warner

            Per capita white people commit more crimes. No come back I see.

          • Paul

            If you say so.

          • Jamal Warner

            I posted my evidence earlier, but you probably will not look for it because you don’t care what’s the truth. You would rather live in your ignorant bubble of a world.

          • Paul

            You are right. I did not look for your “Evidence”. But not for the reason you think. I didn’t feel the need to feel further embarrassed for you. The figures you posted prove exactly the opposite. You could be doing something useful rather than fight against racist math and the horrible people who use it. You do not know me, don’t know who you are insulting as ignorant. I can only assume you have a prejudiced vision in your mind of who I am.

            This is a non-issue that has fascinated you. We could be discussing what these figures mean and what the root causes for them are. You see, I don’t believe Black people commit more crime than others. I believe that some people are singled out for “special” treatment according to all kinds of “special” determinations and because of that, there are “special” outcomes.

            To embrace this level of obtuse avoidance of a very simple function of the world is not being just a victim, it is enabling victim-hood. I sense in you that you want to be a defender of what is right and fight against injustice. You need more than a participation certificate to do that. You need basic skills, universal skills that reflect the world we live in and do not work differently according to the race, color, or social grouping one wears. As it stands, I am sure you are a useful tool to someone. Go get your own tools and come back when you want to talk to another real person rather than some “special” enemy you have spotted.

          • Jamal Warner

            I posted the most recent fbi stats on crime. I simply implied that any post here is so far from reality that you all live in a world of your own.

            Yet, you try to downplay my intelligence by classifying me as being inferior to your post. Neither of your post remotely tackled my arguments. You simply overlooked them and asserted claims that you fail to provide evidence.

            I will not take any of your posted serious because you fail to even provide basic info to counter my arguments. I assume you would rather deflect from my initial post.

          • Paul

            I was replying to your post of 9 days ago were you cited statistics on crime. I have no idea what your arguments are or where you made them.

          • Mark-John

            Liar.

          • Jamal Warner

            Truth is hard to hear sometimes guy!

          • Mark-John

            Your post is moronic, Jamal. Blacks commit an overwhelming majority of Crime, per capita.

          • Jamal Warner

            NO, white people do.

          • Mark-John

            No. They don’t.

          • Jamal Warner

            Sadly, they do and you just don’t know it.

          • Jamal Warner

            They do!

        • Proud Conservative Mom

          : ) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bucksergeant

    That’s racist. (To all Neanderthals)

  • Wrabble

    The top 25 countries with the highest murder rates are all non-white.

    The bottom 50 countries with the lowest murder rates are all non-black.

    en.wikipedia DOT org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Is it better to live in a country with a high murder rate or a low murder rate?

  • Bucksergeant

    Especially if you criticize Dear Leader.

  • Cajun Exile

    Paul parroted:
    Total crime in that table-
    Whites 6,578,133 Blacks 2,697,539
    Forcible Rapes- Whites 9,504 Blacks 4,811
    Aggravated Assaults-White 194,981 Black 102,597
    Murders-White 4,000 Blacks 4,149
    Robbery-White 35,443 Blacks 45,827

    Then Paul ignorantly stated:
    “Do whites commit more crime than blacks? You more than double our crime rate, you are the problem.”

    According to the 2010 Census the following facts are relevant:

    Americans 308,745,538 100.0 %
    Non-Hispanic White 196,817,552 63.7 %
    Non-Hispanic Black or African American 37,685,848 12.2 %

    The result is that fact is that at anytime that, as a group, blacks commit crime at a rate higher than 12% they have a higher crime rate per capita than the population at large.

    Congratulations for proving that the assertions of your opponents on this thread are correct. Belated congratulations for not being intelligent enough to recognize you have done so.

  • Cajun Exile

    Whites are more than 5.22 times the black population. Do you understand the relevance of that fact?

    • Paul

      Which is more 6 million white crimes or 2 million black crimes? You went to school, this should be easy for you. Well maybe you didn’t go to school, ask someone for so help.

      • Cajun Exile

        “Which is more 6 million white crimes or 2 million black crimes?” You are a dullard. Do you serve in the Obama administration by any chance?

        • Wrabble

          Czar of Maffs and Sadistics.

        • Paul

          You didnt answer the question so you must be the dullard.

          • Cajun Exile

            The question is stupid. You lack the intelligence, education or training to understand why it is stupid. Triple fail on your part. Nothing is more laughable than an idiot who is so lost that he does not even know enough to know enough to know what a total idiot he is. Congratulations. I don’t mind that you are an idiot, just don’t mind that I point it out.

          • Paul

            LOL you are the one that stupid if you dont know which is more 6 or 2. But i guess you didnt make it that far in school. Go ask your moms maybe she can help your dumb ass.

          • Cajun Exile

            And just what are those aggregated “white crimes”? Jaywalking? Talking to idiots like yourself. You don’t have a clue dummy. Lets look at some of your numbers in a context that matters:

            “Murders-White 4,000 Blacks 4,149” By your own statistics Blacks commit murders at a rate 540% higher than that of whites.What’s higher, a rate of 100% or a rate of 540%?

            “Robbery-White 35,443 Blacks 45,827″By your own statistics Blacks commit robbery at a rate 675% than that of whites.What’s higher, a rate of 100% or a rate of 675%?

            Dummy…

          • Paul

            I never said that blacks didn’t lead in murders I said that white lead in crime. But if you want to go there here you go. Whites lead in forcible rapes, aggravated assualts, burglary, larceny theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, violent crime, property crime, other assualts, forgery and counterfeiting, fraud, embezzlement, stolen property, vandlism, weapons possession, prostitution, sex offenses, drug abuse violation, offenses against family and children, driving under the influnce, liquor laws, drunkenness, disorderly conduct, vagrancy, all other offenses(except traffic), suspicion, curfew and loitering law violations, all according to your FBI stats. Blacks lead in 3 catogories on the whole list, murder, robbery, and gambling. So this shows who the real problem is.

          • Cajun Exile

            Dummy, blacks are 12.2% of the population. The problem with the black community, specifically a subset of the black community, is that they commit a disproportionately large percentage of crimes.

            No one said if all blacks were shipped back to Africa there would be no crime.

          • Paul

            LOL you are still in denial. The only thing that white people do is deflect when you give them the real. I’ve read how to lie with statistics many times, its the only thing you all do. Read it and get some knowlegde. Man you racist creeps won’t won’t admitt to anything even with the data right in your face. Once again what more 6 million crimes or 2 million crimes? You went to school, you know the answer dumb fukk.

          • Cajun Exile

            Go play million man math somewhere else…no one here cares.

          • Paul

            there is no way to adjust because you have no clue what those supposed extra people you are making up are gonna do in their lives. You have to go with the numbers given, and those state that white people commit more crime. Go read How to lie with statistics, because thats all you white people seem to know how to do.

          • Cajun Exile

            I am pressing 1 for English…

          • Paul

            No as stupid as you trying not to answer it, So answer the question.

          • Cajun Exile

            “No as stupid”? The answer to that question is yes.

          • Paul

            The question is stupid? LOL. Its the stats that you all love to quote so much but the question is stupid. No you just ran into someone thats calling you on your bs and you cant handle it. Now answer the question.

          • Cajun Exile

            Poor little fool has no idea how much a fool he is…that is the problem with the stupid…you lack the self-awareness to recognize how stupid you are…

  • Cajun Exile

    Catherine, blacks are 12.2% of the population so you are essentially correct.

    Mike Gilmer’s point was the “Black males aged 15- 34” (a subset of the black population at large) representing 3% of the general population commits the vast majority of crimes committed by blacks and a shockingly high percentage of crimes relative to the general population.

    • Proud Conservative Mom

      As always, you nailed it beautifully!

  • Thunderboy1

    WHO more than doubles YOUR crime rate??

    • Paul

      White people by the FBI crime stats that is used so much.

      • Thunderboy1

        Are you suggesting the FBI crime data is fraudulent?

        • Paul

          No but you seem to be.

  • Thunderboy1

    Miklo- who do you think captured the black Africans and sold them to the Europeans? It sure wasn’t white guys on horseback.

  • Wild_Bird

    You are one very sick puppy.

    Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote an excellent book in which he diagnosed the ideology of people like you on the reactionary Left as a tangible mental illness. Perhaps though, reactionary leftism is not so much a novel mental disorder, but a more cleverly disguised form of illness already widely studied since the late ‘60s – narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

    The petulant narcissist prima donna man-child Barack Obama clearly has an acute case of NPD.

    The Mayo Clinic defines NPD as “a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration.” This seems in tune with the fact that leftist loons, along with their degenerate offspring, the rancid, bedraggled Occupy Wall Street movement, believe their command and control collectivist policies and platforms fall in the majority – which they don’t.

  • Jamal Warner

    I was typing fast.

    • Jughead417

      So was she…yet her comment was funny and creative…while yours was…(looking under my shoes for the source of that foul smell)…the best you could come up with.

  • Mark-John

    The Fact that Blacks are but 12-14% of the Population reflects pretty POORLY on your point, wouldn’t you say, smart mouth?

    • Paul

      Which is more 6 million crimes for whites or 2 million crime for blacks? If you need to use a lifeline go ahead. Maybe you’re not educated, ask your mom for help.

      • Mark-John

        Per Capita, Bruv. Kind of important, as pointed out by dee, earlier. Given those numbers, reversed, Blacks would be committing approximately 10 Million Crimes…and (if) Whites were at 12% of the Population, their commission of Crimes would be almost not worth mentioning.

        As I’ve said…a rather POOR reflection, wouldn’t you agree?

        • Paul

          Once again what is more 6 or 2?

          • Mark-John

            And as I’ve said…which is more, 80% or 12%?

          • Paul

            Answer the question trick.

          • Mark-John

            Don’t tell me what to do, Bruv.

            Of course, you are correct…6 is > 2.

            However, you ignore the CRUCIAL Stat: 80 is > 12. Makes your “point” an extremely foolish one. Duh..

            Next.

          • Paul

            A half of a straight answer finally. Now go read How to lie with statistics, because thats all that you do. It should be required reading for all of you. I dont care how you try to break it down in percentages the true stats states that white people commit more crime.

          • Mark-John

            Pull your head from your as$, Paul.

            Life will go much more smoothly for you, and you might even be in danger of looking SMART, for a switch.

          • Paul

            My head is in those stats, that says you are wrong.

          • Mark-John

            You simply don’t understand Stats, my friend…

          • Paul

            I understand them just fine, I also understand when someone is trying to twist them in there favor. I don’t know what world you live in but here in this time, space, and reality 6 million crimes are more than 2 million crimes.

          • Mark-John

            And I don’t know what World YOU’RE living in, but I’d rather have a pick of Dolls out of 197 Million than out of 38 Million.

            Perhaps you need to get out more…

          • Paul

            Once again not matter how you try to disprove that 6 million is more than 2 million its not gonna happen.

          • Mark-John

            Well, I am correct.

            Tell you what…you take YOUR odds…I’ll take mine.

          • Mark-John

            And once again, you don’t understand Statistics.

          • Paul

            Answer the question trick

          • Paul

            And I said whats more 6 million crimes for white people or 2 million crimes for black people? Percent has nothing to do with the answer. I’ve read this great book that you should read its. How to lie with Statistics, thats all that white people on here seems to know how to do.

          • Mark-John

            And as I’ve said…197 Million is greater than 38 Million.

            I suggest that you try some new Material.

          • Paul

            LOL dont get mad cause you to much of a pussy to answer the questin, Answer it trick.

  • Jed

    Paul, maybe this example will help. Let’s say there’s a big room, and on the east side of the room there are 10 guys. On the west side of the room there are 2 guys. Now lets say that 1 of the west side guys is left handed and 2 of the east side guys are left handed.
    We can look at that and say that there are more left handed guys on the east side than on the west side, and we will be correct.
    We can also say that since 1/2 of the west side guys are left handed, 1/2, or 50% of west side guys are left handed. If we do the same thing with the east side guys, we see that 2/10, or 20% of them are left handed. We can then conclude that a greater percentage of west side guys are left handed than are east side guys, and we are again correct.
    In raw numbers, given the groups we are looking at, there are more left handed east side guys than west side guys, but if we look at the percentages in these same groups we also see that a higher percentage of west side guys are left handed than east side guys.
    Doing all this makes no inherent value judgement about either group, it’s just a way of looking at our observations.

    Did that help? If so, we can use another example to look at what we mean when we say “per capita.”

    • Paul

      Once again its simple math. What is more 6 or 2?

  • Mark-John

    Hello.

    How astounding…that Morally- and Ideologically-Bankrupt Leftist fools refuse to, or simply cannot get their heads around the FACT that it is good People like YOU- CONSERVATIVES with SPIRITUAL VALUES- who were/are the very People who put a stop to the vile practices and prejudices of Racism.

    Idiots.

    MORONS, and Idiots.

  • Bucksergeant
    • Jed

      Not a problem Buck.

  • Jed

    Which is more: 3/4 of the pie or 1/4 of the pie? It’s that simple.

    • Paul

      This is getting truly sad.

      • Jed

        Isn’t it though. And he still won’t get it, because he doesn’t want to get it; acceptance of factual understanding might get in the way of his bigotry. I don’t ever expect to get out of fractions or into different sized pies.

    • Paul

      What is more 6 or 2

      • Jed

        You are incorrigible. Enjoy wallowing in your ignorance and bigotry.

        • Paul

          Answer the question. Its simple math.

          • Jed

            Yes, the math is simple; the question is wrong. Your question should be:

            Which is further, 6/10 of 1 mile or 2/10 of 18 miles?

            Until you are willing and able of understanding that don’t bother me again.

          • Paul

            Answer the question silly. Its easy we all know so do you. Come on now 1 2 3 and go.

        • Paul

          Thank you I do. Now answer the question. Which is more 6 million or 2 million?

  • Conan the Republican

    Hey, DUMB ASS–STATS DON’T LIE! The lion’s share of blacks killed by white cops DESERVE what happens to them. They commit crime WAY out of proportion to their demographics. They set themselves up for these scenarios just by the sheer VOLUME of the crimes they commit. What freaking part of that do you NOT understand, you racist garbage bucket?

  • Conan the Republican

    HEY, THINK, okay? It’s BLACK MALES committing all the crime, and they are 6% of the population!!

  • Mark-John

    What in HELL is the matter with you?

  • Bucksergeant

    Flagged for potty mouth. (and for just being an out and out pig.)

    • Paul

      Yeah but it sure was the truth

      • Bucksergeant

        You lose any credibility when you use invictive. Look what happened to all of your posts. If you want to be believed, just post facts. Works most of the time. (But not all.)
        p.s. your truth may not be the same as anybody else’s.

  • Malaprop

    I don’t see any numbers that they “convicted less”. I suspect its more an artifact of the math.
    As an aside, whites get killed by police at double the rate of blacks. While they are more than 2 X their share of the population, they aren’t comparatively in as many interactions with the police.
    So this really is a police thing more than race thing. And a sentencing thing. There is a lot of blame to share around, and heck of a lot more responsibility for certain behaviors that needs to be addressed.

  • Malaprop

    Playing with numbers. Whites are underachievers in receiving food stamps.
    Whites receive 40% of stamps but are 70% of the population. Blacks get 26% of the stamps but are 13% of the population.
    In fact 37% of all blacks are on food stamps.
    So you are punching double your weight, and the whites are 2 / 3 s of their potential. Its simple math. A tough issue but its not helped by comments like yours that don’t adequately reflect or recognize the challenge.

  • Bucksergeant

    Paul went the way of all trolls.

  • Paul

    Here cunty cunty here cunty cunty. You still look like a vampire.

  • Sufferfortribe

    hahahahahahaha

  • Mark-John

    LOVE it. ;)

  • Mark-John

    Amen.

  • Proud Conservative Mom

    I never had a racist bone in my entire body. That being said, the majority of murders and robberies committed in the black communities, alone, are committed by black people. It adds insult to injury when our dictator and racist in chief, Obama, and Holder stoke the flames of hatred and speak about racism in situations that do not even exist. To hear them and Michelle Obama speak, you would think that they had been in the fields picking cotton and been whipped by Simon Legree!!! Enough is more than enough!!!

    Instead of pointing to heroes like Herman Cain and Dr. Ben Carson, Honorable Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, the Honorable Allen West, and telling them that America is the land of opportunity and you can make something great out of yourself, Barack Obama talks down to them and tells them to bring “Cousin Pookie out to vote”, etc.

    Moreover, those true racist clowns like both Obamas and Holder never speak about the family unit in the black community and the tremendous importance of children growing up in a stable family with both parents. That, in of itself, would make a huge difference!

    This country fought a Civil War and had a Civil Rights Movement. The way these people speak, one could almost think that it never happened!!!

    It is high time that the victim card and racist cards be put to bed. It is high time that people took responsibility for their own corrupt actions and bad choices.

    America was once a beautiful and free country before it got destroyed by the Obamas and their own ilk and treacherous party. With the right leadership and changes, it can be so again, but time is really running out!!

    • Steve Duncan

      Well said!

    • MCM

      Common sense defies logic these days. What seems obvious isn’t that obvious to the pathetic left.

    • 2BRKnot2B

      Actually, I once, just once, heard Obama mention family in the black community. Then, he must have got the talking to, because he shut right up.

  • Mark-John

    Laughs!

    Good morning, dee. Yes…like a sack of flour; but the Comic Relief is priceless. He (pretends that he) just doesn’t GET it.

    There is something very interesting about denial. When I remember, and admit to what it is, I’ll write You :)

  • Cajun Exile

    InfaD! That is an insult to cavemen!

  • sgthwjack

    ;-)

  • Mark-John

    LAUGHS!

  • Jughead417

    Best comment I’ve seen in a while, infadelicious. I don’t often laugh, but you gave me a good one today. Kudos!

  • Miklo Garcia

    Exactly!!!!

  • Jughead417

    I am going to write it down and use it again in the future, but I will give you full credit by saying, “In the words of a great poster, infadelicious, ‘Wow! that was one…'” So much conveyed in so few carefully chosen words…lol.

  • alwaysright21

    n!ggers stink like sh!t, and like it!
    Ha!

  • Bill Leseberg

    I would have pumped 5 or 6 into the Ni99er and then announced “Stop or I’ll shoot you!”

  • Bryan

    Thank you good citizen

  • H. Zayre

    That is because it do not happen, Miss Jackson. Seriously? You think the PoPo running up and shooting INNOCENT blacks? Sheeeit. Four and one half million INNOCENT unarmed black babies killed by they own mommas in abortion. You been tracking that? Police shoot THUGS, aight? NOT innocent blacks, aight? Now, do NOT mae me have to tell a B twicet!

    • IMRightNURNot

      MORON ALERT ~~~~~~^

      • Pam Dunn

        What’s the matter, you can’t tell when someone is using sarcasm to point out the idiocy of a lefty moron?

  • Oldnavy

    Why did the armed citizen not shoot the perp? Well within the law and would have saved us all the money of a trial and incarceration…and one more dirtbag off the streets.

  • Shore for sure

    I just do not know what else to say. I really wished all these jungle monkeys would go live in one place and then get blown off the map and I only mean the thugs who contribute nothing to this country!

  • imrede4glf

    Racist, racist racist racist racist racist racist racist racist racist. .EAT ME!

  • Bodie

    LOL you are so programmed by the Left media, it’s disturbing. Every Black person killed by police is “innocent” and dindu nothin. Mike Brown’s death single handedly killed the credibility of the ‘Black victim’ movement and further solidified the bias and BS of Liberals nationally. The FBI’s UCR
    program tracks and records facts. Facts hurt the fragile sensibilities of
    criminals, criminal defenders, and biased zombies who are told what to think and feel, so as to enable consistent and time-tested behavior that impacts lives far more than inconvenient precipitation on a wedding day — like death, for example.

    A man literally assaulted a person, tried to take that person’s firearm to shoot them, ran away when his attempt failed, then turned around and charged back at that person — to what can only be rationally and logically assumed based on already perpetrated intent — to try yet again to kill that person. That man was justly shot by the person he tried to kill, solely in defense of the person’s own life. After this happened, hundreds of liars who actually thought the entire country would believe they all happened to be standing on the same exact street corner at the same exact time (watching them all trying to fit on that same section of concrete would be a hilarious circus act), began asserting that the man who tried to kill the person who instead killed him, was surrendering with his back turned and hands raised. Now, aside from this now proven lie being totally ridiculous, there’s something extraordinary about the whole dynamic of this collective. Literally hundreds of people managed to instantaneously fabricate the SAME EXACT lie on queue. They managed to do this with such perfected synchronization, it was as if they either had a town hall meeting and spent weeks rehearsing, or they are telepathic and communicated with one another through their thoughts.

    Of course, later on the dead man’s family’s own special autopsy, coupled with ACTUAL eyewitnesses (who recanted their initial lies – and were
    never prosecuted for those lies, thanks to political correctness bias and
    Liberal stupidity) and the simple logic of anyone possessing a kindergarten graduation certificate, it was apparent that it was impossible for all of those racist liars to have been in attendance, and their story was utter BS. But it is simply amazing how compromised and habitually dishonest a certain group of people are in this country, and how willing they are to lie for an attempted murderer, holding no issue with trying to send an innocent person to jail for the rest of their life because they defended themselves from being slaughtered. This group of people told the entire country on that day that if you do anything other than lay down with a smile and happily accept the violence they wish to bestow upon you, you are guilty “of something.” Along with this, they will vehemently assert their innocence of any wrongdoing, holding you at fault for having the racist audacity to defend yourself.

    Once the biased and intolerant Left realized their protected group of people had been lying and a totally different encounter had actually
    taken place, they chose to refocus their partiality on attacking the city this
    event occurred in. I mean, how dare that city gather evidence and present
    it to a group of mutual people to determine whether it was appropriate to
    charge a person for their selfish and racist act of refusing to lay down and let a man kill them, so that man could escape arrest after committing strong-arm robbery. What kind of world are we living in!?

    You see, this jury was infuriating to the Left as they called for the prosecutor — a public figure — to make a determination all on his own (which is totally atypical for all shootings involving people who hold the same profession as the guy who was forced to defend himself from certain death). The reason this exploded the heads of Liberals was because the Liberal media told them it was supposed to. And the reason the Liberal media was outraged was because they no longer had a lone public figure to target with their hate and bias, for not bowing to the emotion of simpletons and charging an innocent person whose only
    crime was not dying.

    And that has been the state of our country: A certain group of feral animals continues to deliberately and systematically target a different group of people because of their race, fabricating lies about the discrimination they’re not subjected to in order to justify their inherent hate and violence, all while shouting remarks about their victims’ skin color (but “they’re incapable of being racist,” which is why their blatant hate crimes are never prosecuted accordingly). Meanwhile, the Liberal apologists defend these despicable attacks and actually try to convince everyone of the exact opposite of the truth; that the victims are actually a bunch of racists who are guilty of existing.

    I really wish I could find the Dailymail.uk (a British media organization — so it’s free of Liberals discrediting it by accusing them of American Conservatism), which compiled and detailed every murder during the last
    15 years in the United States from being deliberately burned alive. That
    “poor victimized” group of people were responsible for every single one of them. It’s no shocker what group of people every one of the victims belonged to, either. There is nobody more brutal and violent in this country, and nobody more racist in the entire world, than this group of people who continually accuse others of singling them out and discriminating against them. All the while, Liberals continue to feed and enable this lie so more and more innocent people fall victim. I just wish there was more deserving justice for these enablers. Like the ones who
    thought they were welcome in the liars’ “protest” riots, when they showed up to support the defenders of a criminal who tried to murder a person,
    but wound up being targeted and attacked instead. Well-deserved justice
    for those idiot apologists.

    YOU are one of those complicit enablers, whether through sheer ignorance or an adversity to freethinking, and you have blood on your hands.

    • dodger4754

      VERY well said.

  • Bodie

    Calm down. CTW was confused by the way he listed that particular demographic. He didn’t specify that 3% was a particular age and gender group within the Black population until later on in his post. I had the same confusion as CTW until Mike finally specified the particular sub population in his last sentence, after saying “3%” twice prior, without defining it beyond the Black population.

    You were so excited to correct CTW without taking any of the confusion in Mike’s post into consideration, it just makes you look douchey for how curt you were. I take it that it’s not often you get to correct someone.

  • Les Legato

    I am sure the President will invite the civilian who saved this LEO to the White House!

  • PJParks

    Check out black on black murder in Chicago and tell me I am a racist for pointing out that blacks commit the most crime.

  • Mike Vee

    “He was going to kill the officer, so I had to shoot him multiple times” – what he should be saying.

  • Dolph

    It’s better to have a weapon and not need it rather than needing a weapon and not have it by a law that has no chance of being adhered to by the parasitic scumbag who’s trying to kill you or someone else.

  • rabid

    Well thank you to the armed witness for saving the cops life

  • rabid

    Should’ve shot him with a witness there

  • rabid

    All you racist assholes white and black get over yourself

  • matt

    Well done, young “armed citizen”! Well done!

  • 2BRKnot2B

    Considering that two NYS Troopers did the same thing to my son for trying to stop his keys from falling off the hood of his car, I’m not sure I would have aided the cop. What cops do has repercussions for their whole profession. Funny thing is, there was never even an investigation, but the Saratoga County jail made the troopers take him to the hospital before they would allow him into the jail for fear they would be sued for the beating. Yes, it was that bad. 4 days later I arrived, and immediately took him to the hospital again. He could barely move. They found nothing broken, but not much of his body didn’t have bruising on it. If in Saratoga County NY, no trooper will ever get my help, ever.

  • Dandydanderoo

    Good for Him!! The Armed Unnamed By-stander!! Another one for our side!!

  • mike

    Tremaine….hmmmm….. I wonder what race he is?

  • Daniel Petersen

    Yeah because the FBI data has been shown to be correct on every single occasion…

    • Mike Gilmer

      You are right. You just cannot trust that racist FBI who works under that racist Justice Department led by that anti black racist Eric Holder under that avowed anti black racist Barak Obama. Now see how stupid you are?

      • Daniel Petersen

        Lmao i’m not the one using FBI data that has been shown to be faulty time and time again.
        I don’t care who’s running that mad house, those chimps don’t know how to use their typewriters…

        Oh and for your info, they left out Mike Browns death out of their recent statistics for officer involved shootings… So according to your data it didn’t even happen… The FBI are god damn idiots.

        But keep on plugging that information to justify your hate towards blacks.
        I saw it all the time when I was a member of a local chapter… I was a teen under the age of 16 though… What’s your excuse?

        • Mike Gilmer

          FBI statistics come from local and state law enforcement. I guess they are all racists and incompetents too, right? The statistics I quoted were compiled before the Brown shooting which was ruled justified by both the local officials and the Justice Dept (all racists too, I assume?) You are such a moron.

          • Daniel Petersen

            No one checks whether or not that information is being sent in, nor of it’s accuracy. The newest statistics is what I was talking about you man child.
            Also I wasn’t saying they were racist… Just you.
            The one emulating every racist in this country as to why they are racist…
            Spew out bunk statistics about blacks doing this or that just to justify their ignorant hate for another people…

          • Mike Gilmer

            Try reading the Commercial Appeal in Memphis for 15 days and see how many crimes are committed by blacks vs other races. I dare you.

          • Mike Gilmer

            Ignoring or denying the truth does not stop it from being true.

        • 2BRKnot2B

          When Hitlery be sitting in jail, and showing up in court in an orange jumpsuit, you call FBI chimps then. smh.

        • Pam Dunn

          And you are a total moron; Thanks for confirming that in writing.

          • Daniel Petersen

            You’re. Lmao your whole page is filled with you calling people idiots using horrid grammar the entire time.
            Go back to the chimney you crawled out from ye troll!

      • Mike Hanson

        Well, he is probably smart enough to spell Barack correctly….or did you mean to use the Muslim spelling?

    • 2BRKnot2B

      The left does not like the truth, and will flag it if they can, as often as possible, to preclude it from being seen. Censorship is one of their traits, and they claim to be “open minded” (liberal, yeah, look it up minds of mush).

  • rob

    Next time…don’t bother.

  • slut lover

    Too bad he didn’t just drop the assailant and save society the 98% chance of recidivism

  • doug

    TY citizen

  • Keith

    Overall, you are correct. His point was the age qualifier for the vast majority of the black crimes committed accounts for only 3% of the population.

  • Rayne

    Your facts are RAAAAYSISSSS

    • 2BRKnot2B

      Aint dat be ‘Rayne’sis’?

  • budfudlacker

    Awww I bet them po’ ol’ black suspects didn’t do nuthin’ and we’re juss gettin’ harassed by the police for nothin’!!! I bet they were trying to turn their life around but couldn’t because they fell victim to these crazy racist white cops and their global conspiracy to eliminate all black people! Where’s Jessie! Where’s Sharpton! We have us yet another case of a couple of black angels that fell from heaven and unfortunately landed in the web of rampant white privilege!!!

    ……yeah, that’s it.

  • disqus_L9kdHXsEcd

    The tragedy is that police officers have to risk their lives even more than usual because they know that if they shoot these little punk ass mother effers, the media is going to do all they can to make it seem like they done shot another “unarmed” black man…Such a shame. I would’ve shot his ass as soon as he got hold of my baton…Yaaaasss I would have.

  • Lucas Song

    And this armed civilian will definitely be pulled over and fatally shot someday by a cop or sheriff someday because he asked for it today.

  • Mike Weaver

    shoot these sob’s and this shit will stop!

  • Proud US vet/American

    The armed citizen would have been completely justified if he’d have spattered this A-holes brains all over the street, and i’d say had a 99% chance of being found not guilty in a court for protecting the officer-think of the money this would have saved the taxpayers!

  • Robert Jarvis

    The names say it all…………..those black lives DO NOT MATTER!!!

  • Miss Mellie

    Thermaine and Jermaine are probably card-carrying members of the group, THUG LIVES MATTER.

  • wayne

    The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution
    reads: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of
    the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

  • Fred Flintlock

    If the officer hadn’t had help, he would be dead. If the officer had shot the burglar, he would be charged with murder and probably go to prison. “That poor boy was unarmed !!”.
    Thugs are thugs. Drop them.

  • Hitboy

    The names say it all……POS!

  • Richard Gauthier

    MAYBE THE OFFICER WAS TOO NICE,ALMOST COST HIS LIFE,WHAT RACE WAS OFFICER AND CRIMINAL,I BET THE TWIN PARENTS ARE PROUD OF THEIR SONS

  • Todd Reeder

    The officer would be dead if citizens couldn’t have guns.

  • Todd Reeder

    I hope anti gun people change their mind when they read this. An armed citizens could save their life someday.

  • 2BRKnot2B

    Perp is lucky the armed citizen showed restraint. I’m not aware of MI law, but he may not have had to show such. However, the vast majority of armed people do not wish to kill anyone if they do not have to. Any belief to the contrary is pure unadulterated Bull nonsense.

  • sonshine

    Yes, the citizen should be commended for his service.

  • Mikial

    The guy was beating a cop to death with his own baton. To me that is an immediate threat to the officer’s life and I would have capped the guy and no cop would have arrested me for it. His name tells you a lot, which means he’ll do a couple of years and be out on the street.

  • proudwhite

    SHOULD HAVE SHOT THE NEGRO, ..THEN say STOP!

  • Donnie J McDonald

    A good guy with a gun stop a bad guy from beating the cop to death. The good guy with a gun deserves a medal and the bad guy deserves a long, long time in the penitentiary.

  • Great outcome…sick of these scum thugs

  • sonney

    Yes and would likely pull the trigger.

  • Mott Dorn

    You can bet that he would have got his weapon and killed him.