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Employer: You Can’t Carry At Work. Now What?


A reader sent us the message below that details his experience with his employer finding out that he carries a firearm while on the job and we couldn’t help but ask; What would you do in the same situation?

I have a story that I would like to share. I carry everyday at my work, and this has been a non-issue up until yesterday. I made a rookie mistake and got caught printing. Not doing anything out of the ordinary I just bent over and someone took notice. The person who took notice then asked me if I had my CCW. I told her yes and she then asked me questions on how to obtain one herself. I thought I had dodged a bullet (pun intended).

Like a typical office, she told one person who then told another until it made it up the food chain to the person in charge. I was called into the office for a just a typical thing nothing to be concerned about, but once that issue was resolved I got asked the question. “Are you carrying a firearm?”

I’m not one to lie or beat around the bush, so I told the person in charge I was going to shut the door to have this conversation. I did not lie and I told her the truth. I was shown the policy about not having firearms at work. Then we got down to the personal questions. “Why do you carry? Are you in fear of your life from someone?” My response was, I carry for the protection of my family and myself. I’m not in fear for my life, but as you have noticed the world is a crazy place and I’ve decided to make myself prepared to handle a situation should it arise.

That conversation went on for about 30min, no yelling no screaming… just a conversation. At the end of it, I was asked to leave it in my car until [they spoke with the owner] to decide how the situation was going to be handled, but she told me I wasn’t going to be written up or any disciplinary action be taken at this point. I said thank you and walked out.

This morning when I dropped off my time card, I was informed that the only thing I needed to do was to keep it in my car, per the owner. They also asked me what signage they needed to put up to be in compliance. My only even semi nasty remark to them was that I do not agree with their policy, but would abide by it. I was thanked and that was the end. Not the outcome I had hoped for, but I wasn’t terminated either and someone was enlightened on the mindset of a concealed carrier.

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Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady…

Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady 165 gr FTX Critical Defense rounds, and rides comfortably in an Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 3.0 holster.

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  • Eric Tichy

    I would say that is probably as favorable of an outcome as one could expect…maybe more conversations are in order considering how politely this one went.

  • Sovereign_Citizen

    Number 1 – Always carry smarter than that. Come on man….
    Number 2 – I never tell anyone…
    Number 3 – It is my right to carry…no corporate rules can say no without a HUGE lawsuit
    Number 4 – Publicly Traded company? Buy some stocks and as an owner this gives you a few more “rights”
    Number 5 – Get a lawyer, they will eventually let you go when some sad sack of crap starts whining about how they are so scared of you now.

    • Cotex

      I really wish 2nd amendment advocates would actually understand the law and how this stuff works. First, in most states you are employed at will…you can be fired for any reason, or no reason. The only exceptions are specifically protected anti-discrimination things like race, gender, religion, etc. your right to bear is protected for you the citizen by the government, not protected as you an employee to a private employer (just so you are clear, public traded companies are private employers…the shareholders are private individuals and are the owners). And I bet you are also a guy who thinks that tort reform is needed, and that government should stay out of things like business regulations, but your first instinct is to sue your employer, hoping the government (the folks who run courts) will side with you in denying a company how it wants to conduct its workplace. Grow up….if you don’t like the rules where you work, find another job, especially if you feel unsafe otherwise. Business should have the right to conduct how they want things run, you have a right not to accept their terms and quit.

      • Sovereign_Citizen

        First and foremost if you don’t like the laws of the land; do like Congress and The President and ignore those laws.

        Number two carry smart. I am armed at all times regardless of what a business may say and nobody is going to tell me otherwise.

        Three I watch everything in a company and if you come down on me you will be sued and perhaps not for what you think because I see it all go on and I note down times and dates so before any company is going to get the jump on me I have already noted everything they are doing and whether it is legal or not.

        So, the lesson here is that there are many of us out there whose rights will not be abridged and if you try…you will really wish you had not.

  • TJ

    Unfortunately since it is private property, your employer CAN ban firearms from the premises. If there are no other discussions or repercussions, then this is almost as good an outcome as possible, other than the owner changing the policy. Another point to consider is the law regarding firearms in that particular state. Are there training requirements to CCW? Does the company have facilities in other states, necessitating the consideration of other state laws in making policy? I support 2A rights, but I am trying to express the point of view of the owner and his probable concerns for his own liability incase of an incident or accidental discharge with injury.

    • Brad

      Unless and until a business is sued for failure to protect, the insurance company will dictate a no-firearms policy because that is where they perceive the risk to be.

  • Michael Flowers

    I got a lawyer to write the company a nice letter, basically telling them that since they have denied me my ability to defend myself, they have in so doing accepted responsibility, and thus liability, should I be injured while complying with their policy. A copy went to the employer’s insurance company, as well.

    It didn’t change anything, but would have provided powerful ammo in court, if needed.

  • Lew Gosnell

    Leave one in the car (secured), but keep that Ruger LCP in your pocket.

    Employer policy is just that, and they can fire you for violating it. A nice lady in
    Oklahoma had her head cut off last year, at work, by an “Ex-employee”, and I bet she’d be on your side in this argument.

    • Brad

      Save newspaper clippings of this and other incidents. That and the lawyer letter should inform the conversation. But I would not, especially now that it is in the open, violate the policy. Apart from being fired (especially in an at-will state), if they ask you to leave and you do not you can be arrested for trespass. At the end of the day, it’s their business. If they want to risk a lawsuit, that’s up to them. Personally, I would love to see it happen.

    • Brad

      Turns out, the CEO of the company would have also been on your side.
      “Mark Vaughan, who is the former CEO of the company, pulled out a gun and shot Nolen as he was attacking another coworker, Traci Johnson.”

  • Steven Johnson

    In Ohio..where I work..but live in Michigan..if the employer posts ‘No Guns Allowed ‘ on Property..they can and will terminate employer does have this posted.

  • Chuck

    I had a similar situation. A no weapon policy at work and a fresh CC permit in my pocket. So I had a conversation with HR and was told they would not be comfortable with it. I leave my firearm at home and only carry on nights and weekends.

  • Marcus Paul Bevan

    I would not have confirmed to the person that saw me “printing” that I had a firearm. For all she knew it could have been a second phone with the oddly shaped case or even (dare I say it proving my age) a pager from a second part time job that was a bit bulky and outdated, so I choose to carry it inside my waistband.
    The thing about this story is it was in his work’s employee guidelines that firearms were not allowed to be carried by employees, so he broke a work rule. I give him major points for honesty, but A) He broke his companies policy about firearms in the workplace.
    B) Never tell someone if you wouldn’t tell your best friend, it’s a cencealed firearm for a reason. Co-workers are not friends, and they gossip.
    I’m glad he’s still employed but he broke a pretty big Concealed Carry rule, he admitted it to someone that didn’t need to know.

    • Dusk2dusk

      Due to their interest in acquiring a ccw themselves, they probably knew exactly what they were looking at. Personally I have followed company policies in the past, for the most part, since what I have can’t be easily hidden. But I do agree get something extremely small, and trust your instincts

  • Del Simmons

    A Seecamp discreetly concealed in your pocket is always better than your Glock locked in your car..

  • Twerk_this_Obama

    Operating within the prescribed state laws and the rights and protections awarded to private entities, such as the workplace, is paramount towards bolstering our 2ndA rights. Stepping outside those boundaries slows down or stops the progress by “arming” the left with the political ammo to advance their gun control cause. I think it’s also pretty safe to say that no matter where a CCW holder is legally carrying, once his weapon is revealed and made apparent to the public, he is now in violation of the laws of most, if not all states even if open carry is allowed. At that moment, all it would take is someone to claim they feel threatened and you could be arrested for incitement and then have your retirement drained from civil proceedings after the outcome of grand jury investigation, regardless of whether in indictment is handed down.

  • anonymous

    I work in IT / PC repair, networking, etc.. Due to the nature of my job, I frequently find myself in customer’s homes and businesses. I always carry and so does the owner of our small company. He has no issue with us employees carrying, but he does stress making sure it is 100% concealed. One time I went on-site to a customer’s house, I was on the floor underneath a desk when my shirt pulled up above my waist. My handgun was clearly visible and as I pulled my shirt back down the customer saw and asked about it.(With my little Ruger LCP it is very easy to forget I’m even carrying it, whoops). I told her that I have my concealed carry permit, she asked if we were allowed to carry at work. I told her that my boss was fine with. She said that she thought it was great that our company allows employees to carry. Faith in humanity restored!