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How Often Do You Take A Round Out Of The Chamber?

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If you’re an everyday concealed carrier, the chances are good you probably unload and reload once a day.  For those who put the round back in the top of the magazine, there’s going to be a repeated opening and slamming shut of the upper receiver.  This can cause, over time, impacts and dents on the head and rear of the casing.  As different ammunitions and guns each have their individual tolerances, let’s discuss some conditions and when it would be appropriate to consider changing the round that goes into your chamber.

Condition 1: Loading/Unloading Once To Three Times A Day

While it’s possible to go days or even weeks without checking the round that’s chambered in your gun, there’s other people who don’t use the same gun everyday.  As such, a person may unload a gun before putting it away in a gun safe before taking out and loading a different one.

In this condition, we’re just examining a single pistol, single round of ammunition that gets slid in repeatedly.  For the purposes of discussion, we’re going to say it’s a full metal jacketed round.  When using more expensive jacketed hollow points or special self-defense rounds, follow manufacturer specifications.

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  1. FEAR: The primer on the back case of a round may be accidentally impacted by the upper receiver of a pistol repeatedly being slammed down on it.
  2. GENERAL: Consider changing out the round being chambered once every two weeks.
  3. TIP: If you’re able, ease the upper receiver down onto the round versus letting the upper receiver slam down on the round. If you do this, ensure that your firearm is in battery once the slide is forward.
  4. HONESTLY:  Even if you’re able to switch it out once every month or once every several months, it shouldn’t be an issue.  We haven’t gotten any reports of negligent discharges due to a primer being scraped to the point of exposure to the backplate of an upper receiver and I know I’ve personally kept the same round in the chamber for over a month.

Condition 2: Loading/Unloading More Than Three Times A Day

For people that have to work across state lines where the other state doesn’t share concealed carry reciprocity, or they work or go to school in a place that doesn’t allow handguns, it may be possible for someone to have to legitimately load and unload his or her pistol multiple times a day.  In this case, the recommendations above may not properly describe your situation.

  • FEAR: The same as Condition 1 but with added stress on the round itself.
  • GENERAL: Consider changing out the round being chambered every week.  This can be as simple as rotating the round back to the bottom of the magazine.  If you clean your gun once a week, consider loading the rounds with the most used one going in first.
  • TIP: Be gentle lowering the upper receiver back down onto the loaded round, while still making sure the firearm is in battery.

Condition 3: You Have A Revolver

If you have a revolver, chances are good I think you’re probably a pretty cool person.  But beside all that, your rounds are probably good to go for quite some time.  A loaded revolver just needs to be stored inside a dry gun safe and it will arguably be good for a lifetime.  If you’re carrying a revolver concealed in muggy or salty conditions, just visually inspect the revolver to ensure the rounds aren’t horribly corroded or rusted.  If your gun goes into the drink (hey, maybe you decided to jump into a pool with your holstered gun on, who knows?), switch out your rounds and let them dry in a safe, cool place.  And even then, they’re probably fine.  Revolvers and modern munitions are extremely reliable.

  • FEAR: Rounds become inert due to sweat, salty water, or exposure.
  • GENERAL: If the rounds get soaked in salt water, consider switching them out.  Otherwise, a visual inspection of the rounds to ensure they are dry and serviceable is really all there is left to do.
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About James England | View all posts by James England

James England is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and has served as a defense contractor in Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. His daily concealed carry…

James England is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and has served as a defense contractor in Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. His daily concealed carry handgun is a Glock 36 in a Lenwood Holsters Specter IWB or his CZ-75D PCR in an Alien Gear MOD holster.

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  • EH

    Relatively new concealed carrier here, wondering if I can get some further education on the topic of unloading/reloading every day. What is the purpose of doing so? I carry a Sig P938 every day, cocked and locked and topped off to 7+1. I would guess I unload/reload maybe 1x-2x per week, mostly to give the internals a rest but I’ve never heard of a reason to do it more often. Is there a danger of damaging either the gun or the rounds by keeping the gun loaded and cocked for an extended period of time?

    • s0nspark

      No danger… and no real need to give the internals a rest either. Some people just unload their guns a lot. Maybe to practice, maybe to dry fire… IMO a carry gun rarely needs to be unloaded.

      My personal opinion is that, once you have vetted a gun and decided to carry it, you should (if possible) get a second one for practice and that gun gets the brunt of the harsh treatment. Of course, that is assuming you are not in the “carry gun du jour” club and that you actually train… ;-)

      • EH

        Thanks!

      • Shawn Hicks

        what about regular cleaning and maintainance of your carry weapon? even holstered your carry weapon will accumulate quite a bit of dirt, lint and grime. I clean all of my fireamrs every 6 months and inspect all internal components and fire all of my firearms at least every 6 months. I know my dad had a hunting rifle that he had that he only used once in a while and did no PM on and it had sat for some time. Some internal component had broken/seized up causing him a pretty miserable hunting trip once.

        • s0nspark

          Absolutely – regular inspections are the primary reason my carry gun is unloaded. As you mentioned, lint and dirt can accumulate and oil dries up or runs off. I usually check for these conditions once a week or after a particularly nasty day.

          I inherited a Colt revolver from my grandfather and I swear it looked like it was never cleaned. Guns must be taken care of in order for them to take care of business :)

    • If you are going to store a gun for months or years then you put in a snap cap to make the springs if striker fired not go wonky. No reason to do it more often unless you are required to by law or are going to clean the gun or in certain weather. In cold weather conditions you may want to take out the mag, empty the chamber, take bore brush with cloth with some gun oil every month or two. This prevents the slide from becoming stuck due to the cold weather.

      As for practicing dry fire do not use live ammo use snap caps. You can also practice clearing out malfunctions such as double feed or failure to eject.

      • WateryWilly

        “As for practicing dry fire do not use live ammo use snap caps”. By definition, “dry fire” is not using live ammo. If you are using live ammo, it’s called “live fire”. “Dry fire” involves using snap caps or nothing at all, just releasing on an empty chamber.

        • Ben Bushong

          You hear of people ‘dry firing’ at home using live ammo from time to time. We usually call them negligent discharges…

    • ED/PHX

      No, ur doing it automatically….Locked and cocked…??? I hav 2 Glocks, Gen 26 and a straight 26….10+1 in each…always carry HP’s, don’t have any xtra mags so when I shoot at the range, which is 2-3-4 times a week, some times….automatically change out cuz my first shots are with the HP’s…not always…only Trump could afford that but close enuff…Good luck on ur new endeavor…

      • Mikial

        So you’re saying you only have one mag per gun? Dude, get some extra mags . . I always have at least 5 per gun. That way you can always carry a spare mag and you have back-ups in case a mag goes bad . . and they can go bad. They are a machine, just like your gun. Springs, followers, and feed lips can all suffer damage or wear. Another thing I have learned, with very few exceptions (such as Chip McCormick mags for 1911s) always buy factory mags. The after market stuff usually isn’t worth the discount..

        • ED/PHX

          ED/PHX ED/PHX • a few seconds ago

          said that wrong…was “assuming”…I don’t count the mag in the gun…I actually have 4 interchangeable…so I x for each gun…at Expert, if I get in that much trouble, didn’t deserve the rating…ha!

      • ED/PHX

        said that wrong…was “assuming”…I don’t count the mag in the gun…I actually have 4 interchangeable…so I x for each gun…at Expert, if I get in that much trouble, didn’t deserve the rating…ha!

  • ReallyOldOne

    Interesting thoughts that I never really considered. My rounds get rotated on my everyday carry about once per week when I unload/reload at range. So, round in the chamber gets extracted after mag is out. When the still full mag goes back in, I rack in a round, then drop the mag and put the extracted round in top of mag so its full again. I suppose that means these two have been rotating in and out of the chamber for a while. I’ll examine the rounds later today when I am more awake.
    Question: Anyone else found lint in hollow points? I pocket carry and often find lint accumulated in the hollow point. Wonder what impact that would have on a round when fired? When entering a live body? Anybody know? Thoughts?

    • Kevin Kilkenny

      As I have commented a couple of times above:
      I hate the effort for reloading that last round after racking on a full mag., I load the +1 round from way less than full extra mag. That keeps the full mag full and don’t have to get the last round back into it..

  • s0nspark

    I only unload my carry gun maybe once or twice a week… that said, I avoid concerns over setback by shooting out my carry ammo at practice sessions.

    • ReallyOldOne

      Not sure I understood you correctly. You shoot out the entire mag of self defense rounds every time you practice? Isn’t that expensive? Or just the first couple of rounds, which is what I thought when I first read your post. Could you clarify?

      • Michael Visco

        I go threw a whole pack of self defense ammo at least once a month. I would rather know that the ammo I carry works with the gun then when I need it most, ca use whend i need it and iT fails, its too late. I have also been told by alot of self defense people that if you don’t know how your carry ammo handles on a regular basis that you are not training properly. Is it right? Don’t know? But it makes sense to me. If you train for the Olympics would you train in swimming if you were a runner. I hope that made sense? Is it expensive? Yes!! But I know that my gun will fire that ammo every time without fault. I would like to think that my life and my family’s is worth it.

        • ReallyOldOne

          Good points on making sure defense rounds work properly. I did run through 2 mags when I switched to the current brand and same after 6 months or so. I think I will take the middle road. A couple of defense rounds on each or maybe every second/third range session. That will put my mind at ease that the rounds still work and solve the rotation “issue” also.
          Thanks for the input. Always good to rethink ones procedures.
          PS on lint in the nose: It is actually the spare mag first round that is collecting lint. Same questions for anybody. Is some lint in the nose an issue?

          • All you have to do for practice ammo is make sure it is the same grain as the self defense ammo,

          • Stan Robertson

            I would disagree. Practice ammo is usually FMJ of some sort. SD ammo is, (or SHOULD be) a version of JHP. There may be an issue with JHP hanging on the feed ramp of some firearms. You have to know in advance whether or not the JHP round you use, will not have a feed problem.

          • FMJ if the same grain as the hollowpoints mean same amount of recoil but at a cheaper price.

          • Shawn Hicks

            you should still run a few hundred rounds on a regular schedule of whatever type or brand ammo you use for self defence for a number of reasons. First being ensuring proper feeding into the firearm. As mentioned earlier many JHP rounds can and do jam in some firearms. Performance is another issue. Simply assuming that because a bullet is the same grain they will perform the same is a myth. Many dynamics (powder used, type and shape of projectile, even the brass) change how one type of round behaves vs another. in some firearms these factors dont have much bearing on performance and on others they do. its also a good idea to not only practice shooting your firearm but training firing your firearm under distress (the situation you are most likely to be using your firearm). Personally i not only reload nearly all of my rounds myself, but almost never unload my carry weapon even when it goes into the safe. there are rare occasions that i do unload it (such as going into the court house i unload the firearm and put the firearm into the gun safe under the seat in my truck seat and the ammo in my pocket) then when i return i just grab one of the 2 magazines i carry and put it in the firearm and rechamber a round. Have no idea if its the same magazine or not.

          • s0nspark

            It is not that simple… there is more to the equation than just the bullet! Powders differ (which is another reason SD ammo is more expensive) as does the amount of powder loaded – SD ammo is usually “hotter” to make sure JHPs expand.

            FMJ ammo is cheaper… and that is the only real benefit. It is usually a weaker loading (sometimes too weak to reliably function) and generally offers less accuracy due to cost-saving measures in the manufacturing and loading processes.

            Some manufacturers now offer practice loads that do closely replicate their SD loads – Speer’s Lawman ammo is very close in performance to their Gold Dot line. These practice loads aren’t cheap, though – just more affordable than SD ammo :)

          • FMJ is often the same powder amount or more then most HP loads. It is also as accurate or often more accurate then HP rounds. It is also often the most reliable ammo. FMJ often is the only thing that works in every pistol no matter the brand. The military uses FMJ not because of some stupid agreement to not use hp but because FMJ no matter the maker works in every gun whereas HP rounds do not.

          • s0nspark

            1. Sure, the amount of powder may be equal or greater but that is not the big difference. Quality SD ammo is typically loaded with proprietary powders designed to provide higher velocities with low flash… my general point being they are different and do not shoot the same.

            2. Your comments about accuracy only apply when using match grade FMJs – the bargain bin practice ammo most people shoot is noticeably inconsistent compared to good ammo.

            3. FMJs may offer more reliability in some pistols (i.e. older 1911s, pocket pistols, etc) but I consider that a “picky pistol” issue- it is not a problem with modern service pistols unless you have an out of spec round.

            4. The military uses FMJs _exactly_ because The Hague Agreement prohibits the use of expanding ammo.

          • Mikial

            s0nspark

            This is so true. My wife have actually noticed that some range ammo is so under-powered that it will barely cycle even quality guns like Berettas and Jerichos. Sometimes you can actually watch the slide moving slowly as it cycles, assuming it cycles at all.

          • Ron Spencer

            Not really true. If your defensive ammo is a +p your going to be about 4 to 6 inches high compared to a 115 grain fmj at 10 yards if your using a short barreled pistol. If you don’t expect it that is. I tend to shoot my defensive ammo at the range when I decide I need to shoot my concealed carry gun and forget to change it out for the plinking ammo. Unfortunatly that happens enough that I never have to worry about my defensive ammo getting old lol.

          • Dr Dave

            If you have never been in an actual gun fight I can tell you that 4-6″ is the least of your worries
            Since average LEO’s tend to actually miss the ENTIRE body 8 out of 10 shots fired and they more then likely practice many times more often the average self defender the issue is not ammo it is muscle memory and human physiology
            Unless you are actually practicing at a shot center like the FBI has in Quantico or similar the paper killing practice we all do is strictly to get used to the bang and the development of draw and hand placement. the difference in load is absolutely essential in shooting sports but in self defense your body will lock up far more often then your concern over accuracy with +P or +P+ or standard loads
            Dr D

          • Mikial

            @DrDaveL:disqus
            I agree with a lot of your comments, and you are very correct about the frequency of hits by LEOs in gunfights. But I have to question whether the average LEO shoots more than the average self defense shooter.

            I would hope that a dedicated self defense shooter takes the time to practice more than most LEOs. I know my wife and I certainly do. I’m at the range at least weekly and she is there 3 times a month. LEOs are constrained by training and qualification budgets, so unless they make the effort on their own, they don’t practice as much as they should.

            On the other hand, I DO agree with you that the average range experience isn’t the same as tactical encounter training with a good trainer. People should take good training courses if they can afford them and have access. If not, at least do force-on-force training with Airsoft guns to understand the dynamics of actually facing an opponent who is shooting back. Another option is USPSA meets. They are inexpensive and all over the USA.

            I will confess that my actual gunfight experiences have been more like firefights with lots of people shooting at lots of people, so very different from a one-on-one situation.

          • Mikial

            Actually, you also have to be certain your gun will reliably load the round based on the shape of the bullet. Some guns just don’t like the shape of certain HP rounds. In our experience around our house (yours may be different), Glocks, XDs, Beretta 92s, and Jerichos will digest anything you feed them, but a some 1911s and my PPX are picky, so you should at least try out a mag of any defense round in the gun before deciding to carry it.

        • Dr Dave

          I run thru 500 rounds whenever I decide to change defense rounds (right now using Hornady Critical Defense) Once I do that and I get ZERO failures then I don’t bother wasting money on practicing with defense rounds any more
          The thought that accuracy to the point of minutia differences between round nose and HP’s are insignificant in a typical self defense scenario. If you are a competitive shooter then your match grade and your practice might be the difference between winning and not but in self defense we are typically talking about 10 meters or less and the difference in recoil POI etc. are pretty moot it is all about muscle memory and not accuracy

      • s0nspark

        I shoot through at least one mag of self defense ammo each session. Yes, it costs more but I make a point to buy my ammo in bulk online to keep costs down.

        Cost aside, there can be a big variance between practice ammo and self defense ammo in terms of recoil (and POI/accuracy) so that is another reason I think it important to practice with what you carry regularly.

  • HP

    I only unload when I’m shooting or cleaning. Otherwise, the gun stays in it’s holster and goes directly into the gun safe when I’m not carrying.

  • Mike

    I carry a Lionheart LH9NC daily and it is a DA/SA.

    Being such, I chambered one round and carry it in the DA+ mode. At the end of the day, I cock the hammer back to single action and then decock by slowly lowering the hammer after pulling the trigger. I guess I should really remove the magazine and the round before doing that… at night then it is stored in double action with the same round in the chamber. I like the idea of always having a round in the chamber and not rechambering the same round over and over.

    I have had rounds in a DAO polymer pistol that had scrapes on the casing and knicks on the primer, which was slightly alarming!

    • Dr Dave

      I must be missing something here. You do what I have done for years with my PPK. I simply drop the hammer and put it to bed in the nightstand (no kids)
      Why remove the round? The whole point is that by removing the round and replacing it day in and day out THAT is what causes the problem to begin with
      Leave the mag and the round alone drop the hammer and in the AM re-cock and lock if that is the type you carry and go about your day or leave it in DA mode if you like that hard first round squeeze
      The problem comes in when you take the rounds OUT and replace them
      Dr D

      • Mike

        Yeah, I like not having to remove the round, but I feel like it would be of the least risk, i.e. the safest, to remove the chambered round when decocking. My gun doesn’t have a safe way to decock. Therefore, there could potentially be a chance to have a negligent discharge.

        • Dr Dave

          If the concern for a misfire is so great why have a gun at all?
          Every gun owner knows the risks of guns going bang and accepts the risks as opposed to the need to self defend and not have one.
          If the gun is unsafe time to buy a new one. I have not seen a newer gun that is made that doesn’t have drop safeties built into them be they hammer or striker fired and if you accidentally squeeze the trigger that is NOT an accident that is a firing in ERROR and the gun isn’t to blame
          Dr D

          • Mike

            I am not concerned about a misfire due to the nature of the gun. Guns are designed to do one thing and they are inherently dangerous. While carrying I have no concerns about my gun going off.
            Of course, gun owners know the risks associated, but the idea is to minimize risk. I think that anyone with a logical capacity would understand the risk introduced by lowering the hammer on a chambered round. Therefore, with a SA/DA gun that does not have a dedicated, safe decocker, it would invariably be safest to remove the chambered round before decocking…

          • Dr Dave

            Why? Lowering the hammer does not imply that the pin will contact the primer. MANY guns have lock outs including my PPK and as I suggested if the gun is inherently unsafe time for a new one but one should not have to have an unloaded gun in order to have it in the house loaded safely
            I just watched an interest video clip on the new Ruger American dropped loaded on its back strap from 10 feet and no discharge. Now I know it is a striker fire and we are talking hammer operated but as I said my 30 year old Walther PPK has a break rod if the hammer is lowered to prevent accidentally.
            Dr D

  • Tequila Party USA

    If the powder in a round gets wet, it changes the explosive composition of the gun powder. When the primer ingnites the gun powder it typically buns from the primer forward; however, if the gun powder has been wet when it dries it becomes a cake and not a powder. When ignited by the primer it will explode and can severly damage the gun and possibly the shooter.

  • Walt

    While routine cleaning 2days ago, I found this on my top round: looks like repeated chambering took a toll on the case.

  • Some Rabbit

    Some manufacturers recommend only chambering rounds by stripping them from the magazine. But I’ve never had a problem with simply dropping one in the chamber, letting slide slam shut, decocking and then inserting a full mag.

    In either case, letting the slide slam shut is how the gun was designed to operate. Easing the slide shut often fails to engage the extractor or lock the breech fully, leading to a misfire.

    Primers are seated below the surface of the rim and they won’t normally contact the breech face.

    • WateryWilly

      Depends on the gun – you shouldn’t do it that way on a 1911-design pistol – the extractor is never meant to “spread out” as it has to do when the round is already in the chamber and you close the slide on it. The round is captured by the extractor as it exits the magazine during loading. Any pistol with a spring-loaded extractor should have no problem.

    • Kevin Kilkenny

      I agree with wateryWillie.
      The extractor slides into the casing groove as it is stripped from the mag. I just don’t like the idea of it having to jump over the rim.
      I use an extra mag with only 1 or 2 rounds in it to supply that +1 round for the chamber, I then just insert my regular mag that is full. That way I don’t have to reload the -1 mag with the last single round because the last round to load is a PITA.

  • WateryWilly

    I’ve never understood all this constant unloading-reloading. Mine never gets unloaded, except when I shoot it at the range, or when I clean it. Having said that, all my pistols are in holsters, even when they’re in a safe. Never an ability to fire without unholstering them. Why loaded if in the safe? Why not? They’re in a safe! And an unloaded firearm is only a paperweight. All my pistols are Condition 1, and the rifles Condition 2. No need for a rifle to have a round in the chamber, since they’re not your usual go-to weapon for self defense when you’re in a hurry.

    • Bill Catz

      Exactly! I agree 100% Well said.

    • Brian G. Lowery

      ^ What he said. I see no reason at all for daily unloading and reloading of your carry weapon.

    • FBO&EH

      Exactly. I carry a 1911 condition 1 and it goes into a quick access safe when at home in the same condition and then back into my holster. Why would I want to cycle it on a daily basis?

  • hunkahunka

    Thanks for reminding me. On my semiautos I need to do that; but even my revolvers need to be changed every 6 months in a humid city like mine + I need to change shells in my shotgun as it’s been a while with it + the batteries on my attached light on the shotgun.

  • Mikial

    Good article and discussion from everyone. I always enjoy reading my gun blogs every night. A few thoughts from my perspective:

    1. Some guns at our house, like my wife’s 1911 and Beretta 92 and my Jericho, stay in Condition One. Others, like my Glock, I prefer to move to Condition Three every day when I get home . . . just because I do.
    2. I try to rotate the ammo in my EDC magazines so that it’s not always the same round on top all the time just to be sure it’s ready to rock when needed.
    3. If defense ammo has been around for a while and in and out of guns a lot, I take it to the range and shoot it, and then replace it with fresh ammo.
    4. Some manufacturers (such as IWI when referring to the Jericho) specifically say that when you let slide go forward DO NOT ride the slide forward, let it go forward on its own momentum. So, owners should check the specific guidance for the gun they are using on this.
    5. My method of loading my G21 every day before I go out is to insert the mag, rack a round in, then drop the mag and top it off back to 13 before reinserting it. I find this easier than inserting a round into the chamber by hand, and it facilitates rotating rounds in the mag.

    • Kevin Kilkenny

      I responded above about having to top off a mag after loading the chamber for +1
      Just use an extra mag for that purpose. My extra mag may have only 1 or 2 rounds because those first two are so easy to load. keep your full mag full because round 13 goes in a little stiff.

      • Mikial

        That’s actually not a bad idea. Think I may give that a try.

  • Dr Dave

    I never worry about the primer being abused or the casing being dented I worry about the bullet being over inserted with the constant running up the feed ramp each and every day.
    Over time this condition will cause the bullet to compress the charge and a HUGE increase in pressure will result. There are numerous photos on line of guns literally self destructing from the habit of removing and reloading ammo. When you do go to fire the round the chamber pressure is so high it blows up (the bullets don’t accidentally off but when they are fired they are WAY over pressure and the space in the chamber is different then designed to properly hold the cartridge).
    The process short of the situation you suggested that you have to succumb to state laws about separating ammo from guns the need to remove ammo from a gun to put it in a safe baffles me
    I even know folks who take their gun off when they come home and put the empty gun locked in their night table with the mag “hidden”
    I don’t get that at all. Why bother having a home protection gun if you aren’t going to have it ready to protect you? Are you going to ask the guy at 3AM to wait 30 seconds while you slap rack and aim?
    I FULLY understand locking up a gun but to me that means a trigger lock. If you are doing as suggested swapping guns say using one on the weekend and a different one during the week I get it but if every day you come home and remove the ammo then what is the “home defense value” of that gun?
    If you have kids by ALL means lock them up but disarming the gun is equal to disarming you
    PLUS as I said the LETHAL potential to over recess the ammo is simply huge. It only takes 4 or 5 load and reloads to recess a bullet into the casing.
    Some guys swap their ammo rotating it from top of the mag to bottom but then all that does is stress the heck out of the mag spring (they do NOT fail from continuous compression they fail from excessive use)
    I know another LEO who has a custom made rack that he keeps a Mossberg shotgun and his daily carry firmly attached to the wall in the bedroom with triggers locked inside the device that no kid or adult for that matter can get into without a sledge hammer or the right combination or key
    It is save for the family easy to access and doesn’t require removing the ammo (although I imagine his wife and he had some discussions about the wall “sculpture” prior to installation
    Dr D

    • Mikial

      @Dr Dave

      Gotta agree with you there. Home invasions are more and more common, and my wife and I prefer to always be prepared. I am wearing my G21 in an OWB right now as I type at 1811 hours. I always have a gun if I go outside the house to mow the lawn, BBQ or even get the mail, and we have guns located around the house .

      • Dr Dave

        FAR more likely to get involved in a gun situation in your home today then 20 years ago. It used to be when I started in law enforcement in the late 70’s and early 80’s that BG’s (bad guys) would scope out an area and make sure no one was home before they broke in. Now they work in teams and scope out for the stuff they can take not whether they are going to be alone. They add in that many homes have dogs alarms and even people inside and take that into consideration.
        When a society gets to the point that the BGs no longer care about a confrontation then you need to be concerned. I remember as a kid all you needed was a sign on the lawn or the front door (no signs allowed in our uppity neighborhood) that said “these premises protected by XYZ Alarm Company” and you were safe. Today you just told the BG that you have something worth stealing so they target those more then those without said signs
        NO way am I going to be in my house with no loaded guns I don’t care what time of the day it is but especially at night. Might as well throw an ashtray at them if you aren’t going to keep the gun loaded and available to use
        Dr D

  • Mikial

    Well, we don’t have any kids, and we certainly don’t keep our guns locked up in a safe when we’re home. They are either hidden in some very safe places around the house ready to shoot in an emergency, or on us, or at night within easy reach. When we’re not home they are secured to make them more difficult for someone to steal. But we both want them within very easy and quick access in the event we have uninvited visitors.

  • DeeBar

    Mine are always ready to go and never unloaded unless to clean . My shotguns are loaded , my rifles are loaded and my carry 10mm is always loaded as is my hunting 10mm . Safety ? What safety ?
    Shot professionally and for the Army’s International Trap and Skeet team before volunteering to go to Nam . When I pick up I have no reason to have a safety . Never an accident ever and I’m now 70 and have had my own guns since I was 8 and taught to shoot a couple of years earlier . I grew up with guns in every corner of the house , all loaded but back then it was more for subsistence as there were thousands of pheasant all around us plus ducks and geese . We knew not to touch any of them unless we were told we could . Our neighbors the same and can’t remember any accidental shootings except for my Grand Dad when trying to get out of his truck to shoot a fox and blew a hole in the floorboard . We had a good laugh at that but Grandpa wasn’t smiling .

  • bjensen

    Yeah, ummmm I rarely ever unload/load (repeat) and if for some reason I do, the one out of the chamber out goes to the bottom of the mag or into a separate bin to become range fodder in the future if it looks at all “worn”