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Hatboro bank robber shot

PA Councilman Shoots Bank Robber, Now Waits To See If He’ll Be Charged With A Crime

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HATBORO, PENNSYLVANIA –A Hatboro councilman was driving by a TD Bank minutes after it had been robbed at gunpoint.  His only indicator that the man in question was the robber was when he witnessed a dye pack explode that had been placed in the money bag.  Councilman George Forgeng then followed the suspected robber, Kevin Philip-John Way, from the bank.   It was during the pursuit that Forgeng said he used his concealed carry firearm to shoot Way in the arm.

The Montgomery County District Attorney’s Office is still unsure whether or not to file charges against the councilman who shot a suspect in the recent TD Bank robbery in Hatboro, July 8.

According to Montgomery Media, First District Attorney Kevin Steele hasn’t made a determination.

“The case remains under investigation,” First Assistant District Attorney Kevin Steele said Friday. “No determination has been made … probably not for a while.”

Throughout the pursuit, Forgeng repeatedly told bystanders to call 911.  It was only when the suspect turned around and began to advance toward Forgeng that he opened fire – striking the suspect in the arm.

According to the original Montgomery Media article covering the event, the suspect was “conscious and alert” when he was taken in for medical treatment.  Hatboro Police have said they recovered some of the money and evidence.

After Way was taken into police custody, there was no word as to whether he was armed or not.  It’s possible he tossed his firearm while evading capture.  Way is being charged with five felony counts and is under a $500,000 bond.

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Fifty Shades Of Grey With Self-Defense Rulings

Because the crime didn’t outright reflect “self-defense”, it is still up in the air whether or not he will be charged with anything.

“Technically, deadly force can be used to prevent serious danger to yourself or others,” said Dunn, co-chair of the Montgomery County Bar Association Criminal Defense Committee, to Montgomery Media.  One of the things Dunn pointed out was whether “a reasonable person in the situation would believe it presented the danger of death or serious bodily injury.”

“Whenever a gun is used, you have to examine all the circumstances,” he said. “I think he will get the benefit of the doubt, as he was trying to stop an illegal activity.”

The general consensus from most legal professionals questioned in the article was that yes, it is definitely a gray area but more than likely it will be ruled self-defense because Forgeng believed the robber had a firearm with him.

This may be a classic case of ‘no good deed goes unpunished’ or the start to a really good re-election campaign.

Do you think it’s justified for a concealed carrier to stop a crime in progress?  Tell us in the comments below.

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GH is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and has served as a defense contractor in Afghanistan in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. His daily concealed carry handgun…

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  • Roger Rabbit

    Let me join this discussion. If it had been you or me that had shot the robber in this situation, we would be behind bars and charged. HOWEVER, since it is law abiding POLITICIAN, “The case remains under investigation,” First Assistant District Attorney Kevin Steele said Friday. “No determination has been made … probably not for a while.” The ASS. DA is checking with rest of the good ole boys to see if the local is in good standing…………………..really, I think the Councilman was out of line. There was no direct threat to him, the robber was trying to flee, the councilman pursued him and it appears shot him to prevent him from escaping. The councilman is NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, and had no legal standing to pursue or apprehend. He could be charged with any number of crimes for what he did. At the very least he is stupid, but then again he IS a politician I guess…………

    • Kirby Crowley

      “It was only when the suspect turned around and began to advance toward Forgeng that he opened fire “

      • Retired Marine

        It was only after he turned around and began to advance on him which was after the councilman pulled his weapon and started chasing this guy. No life was in danger until this guy chased him. Could have just been a good witness. While I do like to see justice. What if the guy who robbed the bank dropped the bag the money was in and ran off, someone else walks up and picks up the bad and the diepack explodes. Now you have someone that might be running for a different reason than the person who robbed the bank. IF the guy didn’t witness the robbery, then he doesn’t know who he is chasing and he might get shot as the aggressor. I have said it before and will say it again. Just because you carry a gun does not mean you are a Law Enforcement Officer. You carry that gun to protect yourself, your family, and in some states your property. While I do think he should get off on this charge, what he did was wrong.

        • In the state of Pennsylvania, a citizen may perform an arrest in the event of a felony. There is also clear language about use of force during a citizen arrest.

          Pennsylvania Title 18, Section 508

          (b) Private person’s use of force in making arrest.–

          (1) A private person who makes, or assists another private person in making a lawful arrest is justified in the use of any force which he would be justified in using if he were summoned or directed by a peace officer to make such arrest, except that he is justified in the use of deadly force only when he believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself or another.

          Source: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=18&div=00.&chpt=005.&sctn=008.&subsctn=000.

  • gerry

    Definitely justified to stop a crime in progress. Especially if the criminal turns on you.

  • Arthur Morse

    Shouldn’t face any charges only commendations.

  • J.B.

    It wasn’t a stand your ground shooting. He pursued the alleged robber. The man turned on him, but no weapon was evident. If he wasn’t a councilman he would probably be charged with something.

  • m2karateman

    A person who just robbed a bank and is advancing towards you despite you having a gun is reasonably considered a threat. But in the liberal mindset, that person has done nothing wrong and doesn’t deserve to be shot. That is the big problem in America today. The liberal mindset must be eliminated. It has cost more lives, and has caused us to fall in economic and technological power across the globe. Liberalism is a disease.

  • Warren G. Puffin

    You all are a pack of hyenas. If this guy hadn’t been appointed to the borough council 6 weeks ago, you’d be all for him, but now that he’s a “politician,” half of you are all down on him. Then you’ll go out to a mini golf course with your gun and hope some poor black guy does something that justifies you shooting his sorry ass.

  • Denba

    The councilman should loose his permit to carry. He only chased him and confronted him because he had his gun on him. We have police who are trained to run through the streets after bad guys. I understand he shot the robber in the hand and arm. Believe me that was not on purpose he missed the first time and only after the second shot he hit some mass tissue. He’s not a hero, he’s a nut who is running around with his gun trying to be a law inforcement official. If this was a mature 60 year old man he would of never did such a foolish thing. If he does not get charged I will never again go to Hatboro because in not a safe place. We can’t have a town with idiots shooting people on the streets just because the have a gun permit.