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Another “I Am Not Allowed To Carry At Work” Scenario: What Do You Do?


A reader sent us a message similar to this one, asking what we would do if we were in a similar situation. While each situation may sound unique, they really aren’t. As long as it’s not illegal to carry at the location, I’d carry. Just because an employer told me that they prefer I don’t carry, or they ban it all together, I’d politely nod my head and continue on with my day (and with my firearm).

Anywho, here is the message that details this particular case. What would you do?

My wife works on a night shift at a local factory. This company like many others does not allow employees to carry guns, knives and such on the property. This week there was a boyfriend, girlfriend, ex boyfriend type of altercation on the property involving a knife. One was an employee getting off work. No one was injured, but that was luck. My ‘What if’, comes from me realizing that could have been my wife walking out with this employee and getting hurt. She is legal carry with some good range time and good sense to go with it. Due to our location and the parking lot being very well light, I was foolishly feeling/thinking all will be well, and it was this time. But what about next time? I am going to install a lock box in her car so she can keep her Sig safe and out of sight, and she will not be totally helpless. This is still not allowed by the company and could cost her a job, but there are other jobs out there. Feel free to share thoughts on this. What would you do?

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Brandon is the founder of Concealed Nation and is an avid firearm enthusiast, with a particular interest in responsible concealed carry. His EDC is a Glock 27 that holds Hornady…

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  • joe

    1. Carry anyway and keep your mouth shut. If you never need your gun no one ever knows. If you do need it they will thank you for saving their sorry, juvenile, worthless, irresponsible, libtard, asses,

  • Redline

    I like the conceal part of conceal carry here. Like Joe says, keep your mouth shut.
    Another option was on the last scenario posted, one of the responses was from a guy who had his lawyer draft a letter about responsibility of safety by the employer. Honestly, I have no idea if its worth the paper its written on, but it is something and it is a record.
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

    • Pat Broeker

      “When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.” Really? Do you know how high on the “triage” of LEO’s a workplace complaint is and can you promise the the the time span of “only minutes” is sufficient to keep someone alive? Of course not. In most lethal situations it’s seconds that count and “minutes” are a luxury that is not afforded. Bottom line? I carry a Glock 19 w/high power hollow points because a cop is just too heavy!

      • Redline

        Let’s try with the basics; irony.

  • txJM

    I like her taste in weapons!

    Wifey should make the choice. Nine times out of ten, Americans are too complacent to switch jobs in defense of their inalienable rights.

  • paul

    Not allowed to carry at my work but I do anyway. Going on 2 months now.

  • clay

    Risk your safety, or risk your job? Is there possible criminal implications if caught on private property illegally carrying? Only SHE can decide what’s best for her.

  • bking

    sounds like the company just created a hostile work environment, by not allowing you to protect yourself.

  • mattb

    I believe As long as there are no legal signs stating no fire arms on the premise then there is no legal implications

    • Steve

      Makes sense to me. But I just got fired in January of this year 2015 for bringing my firearm into the work place at a major grocery chain in Arizona. It was perfectly okay for them that their costumers either carried open or concealed,but not a 20 plus year employee. Early retirement at 64.

      • Allen

        How did they find out you brought it in?

      • Arthur Morse

        Was it Kroger’s?

  • Chuck Benenati

    I think if you are going to take the risk of job loss, she should carry it on her body. No guarantee she would be able to make it to the car or get it out in time to survive an attack. Myself, I would carry no matter what the rules were. Better alive to find a new job than the alternative. “Shall Not Be Infringed” !!

  • Frank Ringelberg

    If the Company don’t allow Guns on the property that’s a company policy and not a Law. If now your wife carry a gun she should not make it public in any means that she does. If for some reason she ever has to use the gun to protect her with the gun – by Law she is ok – but she still violated a Company policy and might get fired over it. My company does not allow us to carry I still do at the end of the shift I go home – maybe for ever – but I go home – plain and simple.

  • JohnLockeFan

    At my job, I carry through it’s not permitted; everyone knows that I have a Carry Permit, some suspects that I’m carrying at work, but no one knows for sure.
    Some people had asked if I have my gun, but I decline to answer; I don’t feel the need to show off when I’m carrying, nor care to confess to being unarmed when I leave my gun at home.

  • Dan Gregory

    I can carry a knife.I was told from day one,no firearms or ammo is allowed on company property,once i walked thru a gate to go inside.If i got caught with one,i was fired,period..I had to sign a form saying i understood that. I could have it in my car because it wasn’t inside a gate..I worked a 12 hr shift and made good money and i went by those rules..

    I don’t feel sorry for anyone who gets fired for having one,if they knew better.

  • Miquel

    I would Carry no matter what. My job does not allow me to carry, but i do IT and carry a large backpack with me from job to job. 9 times out of 10 my weapon is in my bag and in my office with me or any job site i go to. I am not breaking the law by doing this and there is nothing official in the handbook that says i can not carry.

  • Josiah Burk

    If it’s properly concealed and you don’t mention it to anyone, you should never have a problem until the time comes for its intended use. And then you have other things to worry about. Plus I doubt that, after the fact, people are going to shake a finger at you when you legally used your gun in defense of yourself or your employees.

  • Tm

    If your employer can’t guarantee your safety to your vehicle. I’d say carry!

  • Chris Lee

    I carry always where legally permitted and/or the punishment carries very little legal ramification. For example, if we are caught carrying in “Gun Free Zones” the property owner has the right to notify us of their policy and ask us to leave. If we refuse it’s considered merely Trespassing which carries only a fine.

    However, where it illegal carry carries a heftier punishment like the Post Office, Court House, etc… I won’t carry and I just don’t go.

    As for the story, if you’re found out, prepare to lose your job. If you use it in defense of yourself or another worker you’ll be praised by the media and supported by every one of us gun owners and there will be enough pressure on your employer that they wouldn’t let you go. It’s been proven lately that when us gun owners join together we are capable of more than the anti-gunners could ever be.

    Your life is more important than your job. You can find another job, but unfortunately, you can’t find another life.

    • soul

      Mr. Lee,
      I am a student at itt-tech, and am writing a paper on second amendments rights of employee’s, specifically delivery drivers. and i am notifying you of the use of this comment in my paper as reference backing my personal stand on this issue.

  • Tonga Saurus

    Nod my head in all the right places…..and carry.

  • Jude

    I used to work midnights at a gas station that sold liquor. Solo shifts. A guy twice my size had once been jumped there by 4 dudes on that shift. Asked my manager first day, “What’s your weapons policy?” No carry, of course.

    I carried anyway. Job like that, an untucked button-up shirt hanging past the belt was completely normal, nobody would ever see anything. Knowing that company, there was little question that if I ever did have to draw in self-defense even a positve pressure media storm wouldn’t have stopped me getting fired, but unemployed and alive is a Hell of a lot better than dead with one more paycheck coming.

  • Toad

    A: if she does get assaulted at work, sue the hell out of her employer. By not allowing her to protect herself, they are assuming responsibility for her safety.
    B: check state law about the gun in a locked personal vehicle. In MN for example, it is illegal for an employer to prohibit an employee from having a legally owned firearm in a locked personal vehicle.

    • imscotty

      Same is true here in Alabama. Your employer cannot punish you for having a firearm in your vehicle. Mine doesn’t allow firearms on the premises so I honor that but if I didn’t, they wouldn’t know.

    • ezkl2230

      Unfortunately, courts have stablished over the years that employers don’t assume any more responsibility for employee or customer safety as a result of prohibiting carry. You can try suing an employer if you are injured as the result of being attacked while prohibited from carrying, but you probably won’t get very far in most states.

    • NJ

      Toad, do you know the state statute that says that? My employer needs a copy.

      • Skipper1467

        I read in my company rules manual that they can not prevent us from legally keeping it in our vehicle on premises.

    • Skipper1467

      If the company has a policy about carrying on the job can you still carry if you’re legal to carry elsewhere?

    • JDS

      In ND it is illegal for the employer to even ask the employee if they have a gun in their “personal” vehicle and also illlegal for the employer to take ANY disciplinary action against the employee for exercising their “right to keep and bare arms.”

      HOWEVER, we are also a “right to work” state and they can fire you for any “other” reason that is not protected.

      • JRB

        I agree with JDS TN recently passed a similar law about taking action against employees who keep firearms in thier car. But being a right to work state they can just find another reason to discharge you!

      • jeremy

        Yup same here in TN if they want you gone, you’re gone

    • Byron A. Knowlton III

      Also in Florida an employer cannot forbid a personal firearm as long as your vehicle is locked.

  • freakdog

    It all depends on the laws of the state where you live or work. In Indiana, where I live, your car is your property…an extension of your home, for all practical purposes…and as long as your weapon stays in your car, it’s legal, even if the employer doesn’t want them on the grounds.

  • Jesse

    In most states it is illegal for a company to prohibit keeping a gun in a locked vehicle.

  • Fred Shepherd

    In Indiana, there is a law on the books that you can secure your firearm in the vehicle and the employer cannot hold it against you

  • Bailey

    How about if I work for a school corporation?

    • Pat Broeker

      Bailey … that is one of the absolutes with concealed carry … you CAN NOT under any circumstances carry on DOE property, sorry.

  • michael

    My employer doesn’t officially allow me to carry either. however they know I do they just ignore it. about 6 months ago an employe arriving at work was robbed and stabbed. the owner actually said he wished it had been me that was attacked knowing I carry and the outcome would have been quite different. the no carry policy is still the rule however. I am sure it has mostly to do with insurance stuff.

  • Curt

    I am waiting for the law suit when an employer is sued by an employee or family because of injury or death at the work place due to work place violence and the employers inability to protect their employees and prohibiting the employee the ability to protect themselves.

  • My company is the United States Marine Corps, and my workplace is a federal installation. Seems odd that a military organization prohibits the carry of personal firearms (and I don’t get issued one to do my job), but they do, so… I don’t carry at work. Then Fort Hood happens. Then Washington Navy yards happen. I really wish I didn’t like my job so much…

  • ALCAN1

    Carry anyway. This is what I would do. I would carry anyway. If a situation comes up where deadly force for self protection is needed then I would use such force. Note that I said SELF PROTECTION. If an employer or any business doesnt allow the carrying of firearms then dont use any such weapon unless your life is at risk. If a co-worker is being attacked I would not get involved. The employer has made it clear they would rather have dead employees then to allow a fellow employee to come to thier aide. If you are being attacked then deploy the force to save your own life. You know you will loose your job if you survive but at least you will be alive. I dont see any point in loosing your job for someone else. Let the family of the employee sue the employer later if the situation comes up.

  • Michael

    My employer does not allow carry on premises, unless your name is on the building, or you’re married to someone who’s name is on the building. However, with the change in CCW laws in WI a few years ago, they had to change the policy about firearms and weapons in vehicles. We have a “code red” policy/procedure which calls for you to lock down and shelter in place until the “active shooter” situation is resolved. This is great, unless the active shooter announced their presence by shooting you. Love it.

  • ezkl2230

    It’s cliche, but it’s called CONCEALED for a reason. You have to be alive for them to fire you for it.

  • Me

    I work for the fed gov. We have signs all over our office about no weapons on fed gov property. I still carry. We have 2 psychopaths who have threatened our employees but the police/ FBI will do nothing until they actually carry it out. Sorry, I will not be victim.

  • Jason

    Unless your wife’s purse gets checked when she goes in to work, I would tell her to carry anyways. If you carry concealed, no one should know that you have a gun until you need it…

  • Kage

    Find a “deep concealment” carry mode that works for her. She may be fired if she needs to use her pistol, but she will be whole and alive.

  • Sights On Solutions (S.O.S.)

    A company can institute a policy retricting carry on their premises but they would be hard pressed in defending themselves in court against terminating a legal carrying citizen. Restricting one’s ability to defend themselvesdoes infringe upon their constitutional rights; not to mention if they were discovered caring because they were forced to defend their life…the public outcry would be deafening as the alternative would be the person falls victim to another violent criminal. In Illinois, its a Class B misdemeanor for carrying in an “off limits” carry location :/ I’ll take the ticket!

  • Steve Merrette

    Every state has different laws but in Florida if you have a CWP (Concealed Weapons Permit) an employer cannot say boo about you having your firearm in your vehicle in their parking lot.

  • Ernie

    You can carry in your vehicle it’s your property regardless of the company rules in tx anyway the company I work for has the same rules and my sig stays in my vehicle.

  • Juan Rico

    I work nights at the only 24-hour gas station in a small town on a major drug trafficking route. They’ve got a strict “no weapons” policy but I still carry every day. My reason is simply this: I value my life more than I value my job. I see too many guys who are obviously bangers to think nothing is ever going to happen.

  • Eddy Cardenas III

    Id say get her a conceal carry purse so she can have her gun hidden on her. And NEVER tell anyone. If it comes down to needing it most likely the policies wont matter. Its life and death. And like he said if u do get found out theres other jobs. If its legal to carry in the state a company policy cant supercede state law

  • Nick

    If it’s truly concealed no one is going to know. If you are ever in a situation where you need to use it, you’ll be glad you had it. If they fire you for it afterwards, you find a new job. I’d rather be looking for a job then having my family shop for caskets.

  • Stavros Theodorou

    Thats your problem!!????? I leave in Greece. To Cary a gun is punished by low its eligal to geat a permit to cary a gun you must be a Goverment official or some sort of hy profile person with Allot of Conection… My job is Private Security im not alowd by low to cary any sort of woepon only my bulletproof jacket the criminals hear cary kalasnikof….. yea tell me your thowghts about that what weel hapen wean a criminal comes at a security with a gun how weel he do hes job? call 911 and drop dead.

  • MtnM4n20

    I would rather be jobless and alive than retain my job and give my life any day.

  • Brad

    What state is this? In OK, and many other states, employers may not prohibit employees keeping firearms locked in their vehicle. Even in a company parking lot.

  • Derori

    I actually work for the Postal Service, and it is definitely illegal. Therefore, I don’t and won’t. If someone wants to give me another job with all the pay and benefits I get right now and lets me carry a gun, maybe I’d go. On the other hand, I happen to like my job a lot. I carry when I can, but having a gun is not the most important thing in my life. The most important thing is to actually have a life worth living and defending in the first place. All this stuff about being alive is better than having a job. Um, yeah. I’ve had shit jobs before, and I don’t plan on doing that again. I plan on having a nice retirement someday. And, since I’ll probably be in the Philippines, I won’t be able to carry there, either. The actual odds of me being killed while at work, unless it’s a vehicle accident, aren’t high enough for me to endanger my job carrying a firearm. I’m much more likely to have a heart attack walking around in the heat someday than to have somebody murder me. And, even if they try, they’d better be far enough away from me that I can’t get hold of them and start breaking shit. A gun is not the only–or even always the best–way to deal with violent people. I like guns, but I don’t worship them. I don’t have an emotional breakdown and become terrified when I don’t have one next to my skin.

  • Smoke Jensen

    Question is, how important is your loved one to you? You give them the best tools necessary to protect themselves. From there they will decide if their life or their job or the law is more important to them. Easy.

  • JTL Web Design

    I had a friend who worked for a company that enacted a no weapons policy a couple years after he started working there. His neighbor was a lawyer so he asked him to draft a letter for the company to sign acknowledging that they were enacting a policy that potentially puts his and other employees in danger since they could no longer protect themselves and that they accept full financial responsibility in the event that he was ever injured or killed while on company property since they were removing his right to protect himself. The letter outlined that the company would be liable to pay his full salary, including raises and bonuses, to his family in such event until he would have reached retirement age. He passed copies of the letter out to the majority of his fellow employees and they took them all to the company president. Once the president had the letters on his desk, it only took about 5 minutes worth of phone calls to other board members for the policy to be altered to only restrict openly carried weapons so the employees who could legally carry concealed, could still do so.